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Archbishop: Muslim women shouldn't wear veils in public
The Evening Standard ^ | November 13, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/13/2006 2:27:21 AM PST by MadIvan

One of the Church of England's most senior figures today risks a row with the Muslim community by suggesting that Islamic women should not wear veils in public.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Daily Mail, Dr John Sentamu warns that 'no minority' should impose its beliefs on the rest of society and that the veil causes Muslim women to 'stick out'.

The Archbishop of York - who ranks second in the Church's hierarchy - also says the BBC is biased against Christians because Anglicans don't threaten to 'bomb' the corporation.

And in a strongly-worded analysis of the state of modern Britain, the Uganda-born cleric makes a passionate defence of the Queen, family values and faith schools.

The Archbishop's comments on veils follow Jack Straw's revelation that he asks Muslim women to remove their niqabs before speaking to him at his constituency surgery.

Dr Sentamu said: 'Muslim scholars would say three questions: 1. Does it conform to norms of decency? 2. Does it render you more secure? 3. What kind of Islam are you projecting by wearing it?

'I think in the British context it renders you less secure because you stick out and it brings unwelcome attention. On the first question, I don't think it does.'

His views put him at odds with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams who has said it would be ' politically dangerous' if society did not allow visible signs of faith.

Dr Sentamu goes on to reveal that he removes his cross when he visits Mosques. 'I am going into someone else's home,' he says. 'And I can't simply say: "Take me as I am whether you like it or not".'

His attack on the BBC reflects growing unease over the corporation's pro-Muslim agenda. Dr Sentamu said: 'We get more knocks, they can do to us what they dare not do to the Muslims. We are fair game because they can get away with it. We don't go down there and say we are going to bomb your place. It is not within our nature.'

He also launches a strong defence of faith schools and rejects Government attempts to impose quotas.

Dr Sentamu warns that materialism is destroying family life and urges a return to Victorian family values. 'We have become a society where we all gather round the microwaves, or the television. Even while you are eating, the television is blaring.' He also calls on people to take more pride in Britain. 'When I was in Uganda, everything that was British was best. If you went to a shop to buy a ruler, you looked for one that said "Made in Britain". But now this country disbelieves in itself in an amazing way.'

Launching a defence of the monarchy, he says: 'The Church of England reminds the nation that in this country the Queen is the defender of the faith, the head of the Commonwealth and the head of state.'

The Archbishop also calls for more restraint at Christmas. 'I would suggest this Advent eating less and not spending so much.'


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; archbishop; islam; muslims; veil; veils
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I suggest Dr. Sentamu should be our next Archbishop of Canterbury. ;)

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/13/2006 2:27:26 AM PST by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 11/13/2006 2:27:51 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
His attack on the BBC reflects growing unease over the corporation's pro-Muslim agenda. Dr Sentamu said: 'We get more knocks, they can do to us what they dare not do to the Muslims. We are fair game because they can get away with it. We don't go down there and say we are going to bomb your place. It is not within our nature.'

The guy sounds like a straight shot. Refreshing to hear basic facts instead of propaganda.
3 posted on 11/13/2006 2:33:28 AM PST by kinoxi
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I definitely think he needs to take over as Archbishop of Canterbury - with him and the Holy Father, the two main Christian faiths of Britain would be in "lock and load" mode.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 11/13/2006 2:34:53 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
That people are scared to even discuss Islam's dress code for fear of bombs going off should tell all these knuckleheads the kind of people we're dealing with. But Pelosi and her clan will be having endless panels on how WE can accomodate the poor Muslims, who have to endure our brutish culture.

Ack, I'm gonna puke!

5 posted on 11/13/2006 2:35:33 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: MadIvan

Ah, I can already see the street protests, beheading threats, and demands for an apology...


6 posted on 11/13/2006 2:58:22 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: MadIvan

Its one thing that people wear what they like and quite another when people are FORCED to wear what they wear. If you put restrictions on dress code, where would that leave the fashion enthusiasts?

What's important is how to counter this form of repression as many of those using this strict dress are either forced or brainwashed to do so.


7 posted on 11/13/2006 2:58:29 AM PST by Mr_Tiki
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Sod them. The Muslims don't understand that the British public's patience is at an end. If John Reid becomes our next Prime Minister - possible - then expect them to squeal like stuck pigs.

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 11/13/2006 3:00:27 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

He and the present archbishop, who is no conservative, have been strong in their view that there is a bias against Christianity in England today.

Amen to both.


9 posted on 11/13/2006 3:14:12 AM PST by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high....McCain.")
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To: MadIvan
But they look so friendly?


10 posted on 11/13/2006 3:21:30 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: MadIvan
I think in the British context it renders you less secure because you stick out and it brings unwelcome attention.

If some scruffy-looking, unwashed, nose-lip-eyelid-bellybutton-pierced, neolithic exhibitionist can roam the streets unmolested, people fearing to do something so insensitive as to disapprove, I don't know why a modest, god-fearing woman can't wear a veil.

The Archbishop of York . . . also says the BBC is biased against Christians because Anglicans don't threaten to 'bomb' the corporation.

I’ve always wondered when an Archbishop Turpin type would say, enough is enough! Don Sentamu, let us see that cuirass glisten on your bosom's swell. Smite that corporation some old-fashioned corporal punishment.

11 posted on 11/13/2006 3:44:16 AM PST by chinche
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I don't know why a modest, god-fearing woman can't wear a veil.

It has become a political statement of hostility to the overriding values of this country. The exhibitionist is a loon too, but at least his / her / it's ideology is not to impose Sharia and chop people's heads off.

Ivan

12 posted on 11/13/2006 3:49:54 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Islamic women should not wear veils in public

and bank robbers shouldn't wear masks.

13 posted on 11/13/2006 3:56:30 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Unfortunately I believe he is a Christian I think that immediately disqualifies him
14 posted on 11/13/2006 4:02:45 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

Maybe it's time for school uniforms, would be better for all.


15 posted on 11/13/2006 4:16:12 AM PST by tkathy (The choice is clear: White hat people or white flag people.)
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Most schools in Britain they are compulsory
16 posted on 11/13/2006 4:39:00 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

I like this guy. He says the obvious. The ANglicans are civilized and that puts them at a disadvantage when the response to brutishness is to capitulate.


17 posted on 11/13/2006 4:55:26 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: MadIvan

Muslim communities belong in Muslim countries.


18 posted on 11/13/2006 5:58:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MadIvan
You know, I could not possibly care any less what anybody in the C of E says about anything. Particularly when the C of E states its approval for "Schiavo'ing" newborn babies:
The Church of England believes doctors should be given the right to withhold treatment from some seriously disabled newborn babies in exceptional circumstances, The Observer reported.

The view comes in a submission from the church to a British medical ethics committee looking at the implications of keeping severely premature babies alive through technological advances, the weekly newspaper said.

After that, what the C of E says about anything just doesn't really matter anymore.

19 posted on 11/13/2006 6:08:38 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: DTogo

Good for the Archbishop. Someone with guts steps up in the country of England. I thought they all had disappeared.


20 posted on 11/13/2006 7:33:34 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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