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Leave Christmas Alone, Say Muslims
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-13-2006 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on 11/12/2006 7:02:15 PM PST by blam

Leave Christmas alone, say Muslims

By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:45am GMT 13/11/2006

Muslim leaders joined their Christian counterparts yesterday to launch a powerful attack on politicians and town halls that play down Christmas.

They warned that attempts to remove religion from the festival were fuelling Right-wing extremism.

A Christmas tree outside 10 Downing street

A number of town halls have tried to excise references to Christianity from Christmas, in one case by renaming their municipal celebrations "Winterval".

They have often justified their actions by saying Britain is now a multi-faith society and they are anxious to avoid offending minority groups.

But the Muslim leaders said they honoured Christmas and that local authorities were playing into the hands of extremists who were able to blame Muslim communities for undermining Britain's Christian culture.

The unprecedented broadside was delivered by the Christian Muslim Forum, which was launched this year by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, with the support of Tony Blair.

The forum's reaction reflects growing anger among Christians and other faiths about the efforts of secularists to push religion to the margins of public life.

In 1998 Birmingham renamed its celebrations "Winterval", and in 2001 Luton described its Christmas lights as "luminos", taken from Harry Potter.

Last week, the Church of England criticised Royal Mail for issuing Christmas stamps with no Christian theme.

The forum, which draws half its membership from senior members of the Muslim community, said in a statement that "as Muslims and Christians together" it was "wholeheartedly committed" to the religious recognition of Christian festivals.

"Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus and we wish this significant part of the Christian heritage of this country to remain an acknowledged part of national life.

"The desire to secularise religious festivals is offensive to both of our communities."

The statement, signed by the forum's chairman, the Bishop of Bolton, the Rt Rev David Gillett, and its vice-chairman, Dr Ataullah Siddiqui, urged society to promote religious freedom.

"Those who use the fact of religious pluralism as an excuse to de-Christianise British society unthinkingly become recruiting agents for the extreme Right. They provoke antagonism towards Muslims and others by foisting on them an anti-Christian agenda they do not hold."

Bishop Gillett said in a separate article that it was strange that so many public bodies were nervous or dismissive about Christmas when 72 per cent of Britons described themselves as Christian in the 2001 Census.

Any repetition by councils to rename Christmas so as not to offend other faith communities will "backfire badly" on the Muslim community, he said. "Sadly it is they who get the blame — and for something they are not saying."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backlash; christian; christmas; muslims; waronchristmas; waronjesus
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1 posted on 11/12/2006 7:02:17 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Don't get me started. :)


2 posted on 11/12/2006 7:03:11 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: blam

Two words: Broken clock.


3 posted on 11/12/2006 7:04:46 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: blam
That's nice...perhaps they should stop the beheading's too?
4 posted on 11/12/2006 7:05:12 PM PST by Voltage
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To: Voltage

That was my first thought.


5 posted on 11/12/2006 7:06:03 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Taqiyya


6 posted on 11/12/2006 7:07:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
Huh? Perhaps one of these is in order...:) Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
7 posted on 11/12/2006 7:12:06 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: blam

I think we are making some Progress here.


8 posted on 11/12/2006 7:12:31 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: blam
Right-wing Christian extremism:

Christmas Caroling

9 posted on 11/12/2006 7:14:33 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Is that one of those "Momtini's"?
Martini Moms toast a rebellion against parental correctness
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1737234/posts


10 posted on 11/12/2006 7:15:29 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I think I will call it, a Freepertini.

11 posted on 11/12/2006 7:16:22 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: blam
[But the Muslim leaders said they honoured Christmas and that local authorities were playing into the hands of extremists who were able to blame Muslim communities for undermining Britain's Christian culture. ]

Muslims will sit back and let the atheistic Left undermine Christianity until the time is right for them to make their move. Of course, the first thing that Islamists will do after achieving power will be to execute the secular leftists.

12 posted on 11/12/2006 7:21:42 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: blam

so what's the catch?


13 posted on 11/12/2006 7:22:18 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: AmericanMade1776

“a martini-swilling, shoe-shopping, writer mom-of-two”.


I am a mom of two & I love shoes.....but I hate Martini's. LOL!


14 posted on 11/12/2006 7:24:07 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: blam
They warned that attempts to remove religion from the festival were fuelling Right-wing extremism.

Idiots, it is the left wing that wants to take away Christmas. No wonder they tie bombs to themselves, the fools don't even know they are left wing radicals.

But, on a side note, here in the states the aclu want to take Christmas away and the muslims homicidal bombers want to protect it. No wonder the democrats won.

15 posted on 11/12/2006 7:24:18 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: AmericanMade1776

I think you need to join us on the Levin Thread! We love to FRink!


16 posted on 11/12/2006 7:25:23 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Divide and conquer as I see it.


17 posted on 11/12/2006 7:26:56 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: blam
Anumber of town halls have tried to excise references to Christianity from Christmas, in one case by renaming their municipal celebrations "Winterval".

Festivus for the rest of us.

18 posted on 11/12/2006 7:27:02 PM PST by Rollee
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To: blam
"Those who use the fact of religious pluralism as an excuse to de-Christianise British society unthinkingly become recruiting agents for the extreme Right. They provoke antagonism towards Muslims and others by foisting on them an anti-Christian agenda they do not hold."

In other words, "Don't turn up the heat too fast on the boiling frog. He'll jump."

19 posted on 11/12/2006 7:29:15 PM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

On the Levin Thread do they have Freepertini's and Freeperita's?


20 posted on 11/12/2006 7:29:53 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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