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Bush Faces GOP Ire Over Rumsfeld Timing
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Posted on 11/12/2006 4:32:20 PM PST by Omega Man II

The White House is trying to soothe Republicans who say the party might have fared better on Election Day if President Bush had not waited until after the vote to oust Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

"You could argue that either way, of what political effect an earlier decision on Secretary Rumsfeld would have had. But it doesn't matter," White House chief of staff Josh Bolten said Sunday.

"The president correctly decided that this decision does not belong in the political realm. And a decision as important as your secretary of defense should not be made based on some partisan political advantage. It would send a terrible signal to our troops, to our allies, even to our enemies," Bolten said.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested that if Bush replaced Rumsfeld two weeks before the election, voters would not have been as angry about the unpopular Iraq war. Republicans would have gained the boost they needed, according to Gingrich, to retain their majority in the Senate and hold onto 10 to 15 more House seats.

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., the outgoing chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, agreed with that assessment.

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1 posted on 11/12/2006 4:32:25 PM PST by Omega Man II
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To: Omega Man II

Please if Rumsfeld had resigned before the election the same old loud mouth malcontents, would still be screaming.


2 posted on 11/12/2006 4:33:45 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Omega Man II

Maybe he'll make his happy when he legalizes all the illegals in the country and caves to the Democraps on all the other things they wants!


3 posted on 11/12/2006 4:34:18 PM PST by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: Omega Man II

Lots of armchair quarterbacks in the party eh? I think you deserved to lose since you eat your own.


4 posted on 11/12/2006 4:34:22 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Omega Man II

gingrich is right. if Bush wanted to do this, he should have done it in august. doing it the day after the election, simply emboldened the Dems, and re-inforced the idea that our team had just been slaughtered.


5 posted on 11/12/2006 4:35:07 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Bommer
Maybe he'll make his happy when he legalizes all the illegals in the country and caves to the Democraps on all the other things they wants!

Well gee if you malcontents hadn't stayed home and handed the House over to nancy pelosi, you wouldn't be in that psoition.

You loud mouth malcontents are pathetic.

6 posted on 11/12/2006 4:36:20 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Omega Man II

When I first saw a headline about this, I assumed they were squawking about how low-class, low-rent, and basically uncharacteristically LOW it was for W to throw arguably his best cabinet-member over the wall right after the elections.

But no. The screaming weenies are whining that he didn't do it sooner.

Sigh.


7 posted on 11/12/2006 4:38:21 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: oceanview

With all due respect to Newt; he himself bashed Bush and Rummy on numerous occasions just to get face time on MSM. The constant bashing of Bush and Rummy by the MSM, democrats, and selected republicans helped defeat the republicans on 11/07. Newt should remember that, he violated Reagan's 11th commandment. If he wants republicans to win again, he better remember to reinstate that commandment.


8 posted on 11/12/2006 4:38:34 PM PST by Laverne
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To: Omega Man II
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested that if Bush replaced Rumsfeld two weeks before the election, voters would not have been as angry about the unpopular Iraq war.

What does Newt know about wining midterms? And anyway, if GWB had done as Newt suggests, there would not now be such an exciting opportunity to work with the Democrats on Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

9 posted on 11/12/2006 4:39:00 PM PST by Plutarch (To GWB, OBL >> GOP)
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To: Dane

yes, that's true. but that's not the issue here.

either you stand by someone, or you don't. once Bush made up his mind that Rumsfeld was on the "jettison" list, he should have chosen the best political path.

the way it unfolded last week - was horrible. its as if Pelosi marched out of the white house with Rumsfeld head on a stick. it was disgusting to see him taken out like that, and then see the president in the white house the next day with Dick "our soldiers are like the nazis" Durbin.


10 posted on 11/12/2006 4:39:10 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dane

I don't know if it's really fair to paint all the malcontents as people that didn't vote.

I'm livid with Bush at the moment and haven't been really happy with him or the Senate leaders for some time, but I still voted R down the line.


11 posted on 11/12/2006 4:39:47 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Plutarch

Forgetting that /sarcasm tag is really gonna hurt once the 'no sense of humor' crowd reads that...


12 posted on 11/12/2006 4:41:01 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Dane
"caves to the Democraps "

Dane, Bush caves to the Democraps because he is a RINO... Seems like you would have figured that out.
13 posted on 11/12/2006 4:43:54 PM PST by babygene
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To: Dane

"same old loud mouth malcontents?"

You mean the Republican base.

Well, those same-old loud-mouth malcontents just elected some new loud-mouth malcontents.


14 posted on 11/12/2006 4:44:22 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Omega Man II
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested that if Bush replaced Rumsfeld two weeks before the election, voters would not have been as angry about the unpopular Iraq war. Republicans would have gained the boost they needed, according to Gingrich, to retain their majority in the Senate and hold onto 10 to 15 more House seats.



That is utter BS.
I am surprised Newt is talking this crap.
He normally is pretty smart.
If Bush had sacked Rumsfeld 2 weeks before the elections, the drive-by's and the RATS would have pounced on that as an admission by the Bush administration that the whole Iraq war was wrong, and that it has been run "incompetently", and that the Bush administration is totally confused and have no idea what to do.
In fact we might even have lost even MORE seats if anything.
Newt should stop pandering to drive-by media nonsense.
Even today, I still strongly back Donald Rumsfeld, a true American patriot and one of the best Defense Secretaries we ever had, on both occasions he served.
15 posted on 11/12/2006 4:44:26 PM PST by ShawTaylor
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To: oceanview

I'm with you on that. Why make your party's defeat look even worse than it needs to be ? Or, why look like a Pelosi toe-sucker when it would be better to go down fighting ?


16 posted on 11/12/2006 4:44:35 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: oceanview

Gingrich wants to score points off the President. I think he's trying to throw the President overboard in an effort to establish himself as a major voice in the party, and to cement the party on the right. Just a few drops of blood in the water, and the sharks are coming to feed already. Look for Newt, Newt, and more Newt.


17 posted on 11/12/2006 4:46:31 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: oceanview

I agree that it was awful, but I suspect that Rumsfeld himself may have offered to leave. I think it was very ill-advised; I think he's done a good job, although he perhaps could have been more aggressive, but I think Bush was happy with him. I think he came to see himself as a liability, and he's very much a team player. The way Bush handled this actually made me think that he really hadn't planned on having Rumsfeld leave, except that it was something declared by RUmsfeld at the last moment.

Both of them have been under attack by the press for several years now, and because the war appears to be (a) nothing threatening the average American on these shores and (b) a political stunt motivated by Bush's desire to take over the universe (I'm giving the media view, not mine), I think Rumsfeld simply couldn't take it anymore.


18 posted on 11/12/2006 4:46:39 PM PST by livius
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To: cinives
Why make your party's defeat look even worse than it needs to be

Baker needs Gates?

19 posted on 11/12/2006 4:46:54 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: livius

No, they said it had been decided a few weeks ago.


20 posted on 11/12/2006 4:48:10 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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