Posted on 11/12/2006 2:41:26 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff visited with the editorial board on a recent stop in Dallas. Here are excerpts from the discussion, beginning with the secretary laying out immigration enforcement plans for his agency:
We are going to go after systematic, willful violators with heavy criminal cases, where people face real jail time, losing businesses, paying millions and millions of dollars in fines. Because that is the only way you will start to change the behavior that has driven a lot of this activity in. Now, we're going to get a lot of squawking from business, whose basic argument will be that "our business rests upon the ability to hire people who are not Americans [and] therefore, if you punish us you're going to drive us out of business." So we've got to find a way to satisfy that labor need without compromising our border control or security.
And that means you've got to create a program that registers people who want to work, taxes them, makes sure that they are within the system so that when they're mistreated they have recourse. Ultimately, this gives us a secure form of identification, so that lets us know where they are. That's the one tool we don't have yet.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Thank you Mr Homeland Security. (sarc)
What's wrong with a guest worker program?
It is intolerable from a legal perspective, however, to legitimise large scale law breaking by the illegals.
Regards, Ivan
Right there with "They only do jobs Americans won't do".
Better question.
What's wrong with any of the other myriad of guest worker programs we already have?
Maybe you could figure out that they and everyone else who does not have an employer stand up for them goes back where they came from. That is, unless you are part of the shamnesty crowd.
And visas
Might not need guest workers in a while.
How concerned are you about homegrown terrorism, of the sort we've seen in England and Canada?
I don't think we are in as serious a state as some of the countries in western Europe are, because I don't think we have for the most part in our country high-density areas filled with immigrants who don't assimilate. Our social structure is much more welcoming. That's a very powerful tool we have. However, it's a big country, 300 million people. It's not going to be hard to find a few people who are susceptible to this. I'm afraid as the Internet grows, we're going to see more of this radicalization. ...We all have to talk about it. We can't avert our eyes from it.
Chertoff has not looked at our problem ten years in the future, perhaps sooner. We will be exactly like Europe--i.e. France and England. By that point all the gazillion kids the Muzzies are reproducing in Dearborn will be ready to bomb not build. Somehow, I just do not feel reassured by his opinions and near meaningless efforts.
Sounds to me like a lot of B.S. from someone who is waiting for OBL shamnesty to pass for employers of illegals, otherwise, he'd have been enforcing the laws already. Nothing stopping him from marching into Tyson Foods except $$.
The Bush Administration is like a pit bull that has latched its jaws on to that and will not let go.
Tuesday night, as the GOP defeats were piling up, Tony Snow was on FoxNews applauding the fact that now the 'comprehensive immigration plan' could move forward.
Wednesday morning, as the GOP defeats were apparent, the House was gone and the Senate was in jeopardy, GW shows a moment of glee when a reporter asks about the immigration plan at the presser, and GW now has a Congress he can work with.
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This is one reason why the SCOTUS is so important. The SCOTUS is the only thing that stands between us and a complete loony liberal take over.
Amnesty and guest worker will not solve the problem. These workers will have protection and will demand for all the benefits US workers get. The employer simplies recruits more illegals to come to the US. Now our working poor population will increase even more. What are we going to do when a recession hits. These guest workers and new additions of illegal immigrants to come, will stay because even being poor in the US is better than going back. Guess who will pay for their medical and welfare benefits? Taxpayers. Furthermore if one is honest listen to what their advocates/sympathizers keep hammering in their public pronouncements. Their is a constant theme in the illegal alien culture - poverty is a license to lie and steal. That is the justification they use to cut in line ahead of the legal immigrants, that is the justification they use to obtain false papers and stolen SSN, that is the justification they use to not pay income taxes, and other payroll taxes (they claim all the US benefits are covered by taxes derived from paying rents and buying food, but they fail to mention that the rest of Americas has to pay additional taxes then sales and property for government services). If you are raise to think poverty justifies lawbreaking, what do you think will happen during a recession and many stay in the US down to their last dime? Can we say poverty followed by crime (justified by poverty). Thank you Chamber of Commerce (large and small businessmen) you have created a situation that is going to incurr more cost to the US taxpayers so that you can line your pockets with bloated profits from cheap labor.
"...And that means you've got to create a program that registers people who want to work..."
Does the above "program" include unemployed AMERICAN CITIZENS, "who want to work" or does it only include ALIENS?(sarc.)
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