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Hillary targets the Blue Dog voters
The Sunday Times ^ | November 12, 2006

Posted on 11/12/2006 2:15:27 AM PST by MadIvan

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The Blue Dogs need to be exposed as socialist fakes, immediately. I already know Webb is - his "victory rally", in which he said he joined the Democrats not just because of Iraq, but also because of agreeing with their "principles" was instructive.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/12/2006 2:15:29 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/12/2006 2:15:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
The problem is the Democrats are controlled by rabid Leftists. Blue Dog Democrats are there for one reason - to give the Democrats' Left camouflage and a patina of moderate respectability. Let no one be fooled - the Democratic moderates do NOT set the direction for the Democrats today.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/12/2006 2:19:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan

Going from Webb getting elected to Hillary Clinton getting elected is quite the stretch.

This does not compute at all. Wishful thinking.


4 posted on 11/12/2006 2:23:03 AM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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The Drive Bys/MSM will make Hillary look moderate and portray the GOP as war-mongering blackguards. Set, lock and match.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 11/12/2006 2:27:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan
I can see that over the course of the next 2 years, I am probably going to post this similar post reply a couple dozen times.

First, Americans will see that the Dims are worse than Pubbies in being the 'culture of corruption' party. Second, the changes during the 'first 100 hours' the new Dim congress is promising will change nothing! Third, Americans will see that the Dims don't have and never did have a plan to fix anything. Fourth, Hitery will not get the Dim nod to run for President. Fifth, Blue Dog Dims will swing back again to vote for the Pubbies.

6 posted on 11/12/2006 3:08:43 AM PST by moonman (`)
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To: MadIvan
The White House in 2008 is Hillry's if she stays on track.
7 posted on 11/12/2006 3:18:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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How embarassing it is to have the rest of the world learn we call some of the Dims the Blue Dogs (and Blue Pups).

You all must think we're complete idiots.
8 posted on 11/12/2006 3:19:51 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: MadIvan
Your Madness:

This is about the success of the Dims and the media in clouding the mind of the electorate. I offer two examples:

(1)
“For me, it was the war,” said Sandy Miller, a 56-year-old nurse, explaining her switch in support. “I just don’t think we should be over there in Iraq. They should be taking care of their own business.

Sandy has forgotten that Iraq is part of the so-called "War on Terror". It's not "their own business", it's the business of people in the UK and the US who would like to think that they can go on a cruise ship or an airpplane without some Islamo-wacko committing mayhem thereon.

(2)
Besides, she agrees with the Democrats rather than her church on the need for federal funding of stem cell research. “I’ve got a cousin with Parkinson’s disease,” she said.

Okay, class, repeat after me:

EMBRYONIC stem cell research.
The Dims and the newsies don't want people to know that there is useful work going on with stem cells which are not Embryonic stem cells. They don't want people to make the distinction. For people interested in the truth and in a free people making responsible decisions, the distinction is critical. For people interested in power at any cost and perfectly willing to mislead people if that will help them control people, the distinction is perilous. So they act as though there is no distinction. Simply put, they lie, glibly, eagerly, habitually. They lie so that they can control and dominate.

Conservatives have got to define the message clearly in their own heads, and then stick to it. They've got to break the eleventh commandment (Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican) and be clear about what distinguishes them from RINOs like McCain. And we've got to find some way to exploit the decline of the Dinosaur media and break their control over how the questions are posed to the electorate.

It ain't gonna be pretty, and it may be impossible. There seems to be a suicidal tendency in prosperous societies with representative governments. We try to kill our young and our aged and infirm, and now we're trying to cripple our ability to defend ourselves.


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9 posted on 11/12/2006 3:25:02 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: goldstategop

IMHO, a similar argument could be made, unfortunately, that for the past 12 years, conservatives merely served as political cover (and money tree) for the RINOs in control of the Republican Party.


10 posted on 11/12/2006 3:29:43 AM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
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To: golas1964
The Americans are going to see Pelosi's Crash Dummies put a soothing face on the Democrats' true agenda. If you believe they'll vote to stop the liberal agenda from advancing, better invest in cattle futures now.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

11 posted on 11/12/2006 3:34:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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" Let no one be fooled - the Democratic moderates do NOT set the direction for the Democrats today."

Democrat moderates, as well as Republican moderates are Liberals.

The leadership are Marxists.


12 posted on 11/12/2006 3:36:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The voting machines aren't broken. The Dems operating the voting machines are broken.)
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Yeah the old Democrats were bad enough. The new ones are make them look conservative.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 11/12/2006 3:39:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"The Blue Dogs need to be exposed as socialist fakes, immediately."

Ivan, what was wrong with the term "sheeple?" Same follow-the-follower crowd.

14 posted on 11/12/2006 3:52:51 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (In Prisons Tattletales Are the Same as Child-Molesters...hmm)
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Terry McAuliffe, former chairman of the Democratic national committee, is already preparing for Hillary Clinton’s likely presidential run. He believes the midterm results represent a potentially historic shift for his party.

“It was a ‘throw the Republicans out’ election. Some people voted for us reluctantly but we have a terrific opportunity to get back the Reagan Democrats we lost in the 1980s,” he said.

Just one problem, Terry .. the candidates that you all ran as conservatives and as pro life will have to come through on their word and vote against your party to live up to their promises

Or will the nags from NOW and NARL and all the commie ANSWER folks continue to keep their mouths shut like they did in the past election???

The Reagan Democrats you lost in the 1980s was because of your commie loving, socialist spending, anti-military, President Jimmy Carter

Oh and one more thing .. those investigations into faulty intelligence ???

The Senate already did that and the report is out

Though I'm sure that won't stop y'all from grandstanding in the public eye

15 posted on 11/12/2006 3:53:11 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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Let no one be fooled - the Democratic moderates do NOT set the direction for the Democrats today.

Key word from this article would be "Looks"

Senior Democrats with a shrewd eye on 2008 are seeking to limit the investigations to areas where their own side stands to look patriotic as opposed to weak on national security

16 posted on 11/12/2006 4:08:40 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: MadIvan

This "Blue Dog" talk reeks of the same "New Kind of Democrat" lie Bill peddled during '92.


17 posted on 11/12/2006 4:09:08 AM PST by spall
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piaps...the bee-itch will target (use) everyone and anyone to help her gain power!!!!

she will preach tolerance and bi-partisanship and a centerist view right up to the night of the elctions....the next morning if she wins (God help us)...the public better know the tenants of the communist manifesto!!!!


18 posted on 11/12/2006 4:42:27 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: goldstategop
Democrats are there for one reason - to give the Democrats' Left camouflage and a patina of moderate respectability.

More than that. It gave them the chairmanships of the committees and I don't think most people understand the importance that those committees will now be chaired by rabid leftists.

19 posted on 11/12/2006 5:41:25 AM PST by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: MadIvan

I think, after the media's victory in the mid-term elections, they will now have the confidence to hype Hillary the greatest of heights for '08. Of course, she had the media support long ago, but I think the "2006 propoganda experiment" has emboldend all corners of the MSM to get behind her and "make it happen."


20 posted on 11/12/2006 6:06:15 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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