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Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 11, 2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by MadIvan

On the morning after the mid-term elections, a humbled President George W Bush called it "a thumping".

But yesterday he described the disastrous result for the Republicans, when Congress turned from Republican red to Democrat blue, as a "great opportunity".

His aides were briefing that he now had the chance to build a domestic policy legacy and use his final two years in the White House to prove that politicians could get things done in Washington.

After a White House coffee meeting yesterday, Mr Bush chuckled as Senator Dick Durbin, part of the new Democratic leadership in the Senate, joked: "I do want to say thanks personally to the president and vice-president for their conciliatory gesture by wearing blue ties today.

"From our side, we think that is a symbolic indication."

Conservative Republicans and wary Democrats fear that Mr Bush might indeed try to steal the Democrats' clothes. "They talked about issues that people care about, and they won," he told the senators.

As a lame-duck president after years of poor relations with Democrats who were bitter about being frozen out of the decision-making process, turning opportunity into legislative reality will be one of the biggest challenges of Mr Bush's political career.

The message from the voters was that they rejected one-party rule in Washington and wanted to see whether divided government could lead to the kind of results Mr Bush was unable to achieve when Republicans were the kings of Capitol Hill.

Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush. The president will want to leave office with achievements under his belt and use his power of veto sparingly.

"The Democrats should adopt a good government strategy rather than a take-no-prisoners strategy," said Senator Birch Bayh, a Democrat who served in the Senate for 18 years.

He believed that Republicans in Congress would adopt a new approach. "They've gotten the signal that people didn't like what was going on, that the well was poisoned. They're not going to be bomb throwers."

In 1996, President Bill Clinton and a Republican-controlled Senate and House of Representatives introduced a welfare reform Bill that became a landmark piece of social legislation. Both parties claimed credit for it. Republican presidents have also signed legislation sent to them by Democratic houses of Congress.

To the dismay of conservative Republicans, Mr Bush has already indicated that he agrees with the Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage. But the centrepiece of his last 24 months in office could be a comprehensive overhaul of America's immigration laws.

His desire for tough border security measures combined with opportunities for many of America's 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens is shared by more Democrats than Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Gardner Peckham, a senior aide to Newt Gingrich, speaker of the House after the Republican takeover of Capitol Hill in 1994, said: "Democrats will have to be very careful not to appear like they're looking backwards and wanting retribution.

"They won't want to look like they're the source of the problem. But they're not going to want the president to look good on any of these issues. The prize is the White House in 2008. Control of Congress is great, but without the White House you can't control the agenda."

Immigration, he suggested, would be "an interesting test" of whether genuine cooperation was possible.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; capitulation; democrats; election; immigration
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To: onyx

Whenever any liberal says that they are concerned about spending and deficits, we should laugh in their face and call them liars.


261 posted on 11/12/2006 11:00:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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To: cb
That's because they are ignorant of the consequences of raising the minimum wage.

Who works for minimum wage these days anyway? Probably the lowest paying jobs are in the fast food industry, and almost every fast food joint in this area has help wanted signs out front offering at least $7.50 an hour. Our local Pizza Hut even advertises for applicants on it's place mats. Supply and demand works the same way in the job market as it does in the goods and services market.

262 posted on 11/12/2006 11:29:29 AM PST by epow
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To: MadIvan
Divide and conquer, Mr. President - force the so-called "conservative" Democrats to choose between party loyalty and the principles that won them election.

good/great/smart Idea.

...Too bad, Many Conservatives paid "lip service" to the principles that got them to Washington D.C.
They got there, forgot/disregarded their promises.
the GOP spent $$$$ like the 'Rats, John Q. Citizen couldn't tell the difference. :(

the 'Rats never made "any bones" about their principles (they never had any, to begin with....except, they wanted to get back into power, regardless the cost.

263 posted on 11/12/2006 2:10:41 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: ohioWfan
I did not say I hated Bush. I said I was angry with him.
here are just a few reasons
#1 Sandy Berger (no investigation no consequence)
#2 Bush rehabilitated Bill Clinton when he put him with Bush Sr. in a highly respected position.
#3 Dan Rather & the Forged Documents (again no consequence for this outrage)
#4 The New York Times leaking classified info that helped our enemies.
#5 The near disaster with Harriet Meir's on the USSC #6 Throwing Rummy over-bored one day after our "Thumping" I am not a fool, I know Bush is a far superior person than John Kerry. However, he did allow the MSM & the Democrats to set the tone & define the GOP (unjustly) and the sad reality is that it worked. You saw the election results, did you not? Finally, I do not consider Bush a leader for the Conservative Movement, I consider him a decent man, but not necessarily a leader. If that makes me a Troll, so be it.
264 posted on 11/13/2006 12:00:41 PM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: 1035rep
Thank You for that list of great accomplishments, they are something to be proud of.
Perhaps you could explain to me why American voters are not aware of these things? And perhaps you can explain to me how the GOP message got lost?
Why is it that only Political Junkies & Talk Radio listeners seem to know the reality and how things were allowed to spin out of control? How did the media manage to do so much damage with so little? Will it get worse? Will any Conservative leader emerge from the rubble of Nov 7th?I sure hope John McCain isn't the best we will be able to do. I'd appreciate some input. The election results have me very concerned about American voters perception of our beloved Republican party.
265 posted on 11/13/2006 12:06:46 PM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: beyond the sea

I am pretty sure that he will go with raising the minimum wage and immigration after that the dems can forget it.


266 posted on 11/13/2006 12:10:15 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Nav_Mom
#1 - #3, your preference, not reasons for anger.
#4 -Why should the treason of the NY Times make you angry at Bush? Nonsense.
#5 - Anyone still angry over Harriet Mier, with the nomination of Sam Aliton needs therapy
#6 - Bush did NOT throw Rummy 'over-bored' (sic). Rumsfeld offered his resignation several times and the President finally accepted it. Get your facts straight.

Overall, your anger is unjustified, and your claims to believe that Bush is a 'decent man' questionable.

As for this "Conservative Movement" stuff........I look for actions, not words, and I see that President Bush has moved the entire country to the right through his strong moral, pro-life, pro-marriage stand, and most significantly through his judicial nominees domestically, and his strong pro-American stand internationally. In the end, Bush will have done more for the conservative movement than Reagan. (And the conservative 'purists' were just as mad at Reagan in 1986 as they are at Bush in 2006).

Whether you are a troll or an irrational extremist doesn't matter much. You say the same things anyway, and IMO, in either case, you can't be trusted.

267 posted on 11/13/2006 12:12:56 PM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan

Aliton = Alito,


268 posted on 11/13/2006 12:14:13 PM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: napscoordinator
G.W. is cool........................................................................... but lovely Laura needs this country' s attention.

;)

269 posted on 11/13/2006 12:14:51 PM PST by beyond the sea ( Now that Pelosi Galore is in charge, it's never too late to start drinking.)
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To: ohioWfan
Bush is moving forward with his amnesty for 12 million, He held a press conference yesterday & called Bill Clinton his "Fourth Brother" He is going along with the Democrats plan to cut funding for the 700 mile Fence.
The treason for the NYT makes me angry because they got away with it.
It is obvious this conversation isn't going anywhere. You have your opinion I have mine.
However, if you read the archives of post I have written on FR, I was a stanch advocate for Bush & I was very against people on here who said they hoped Democrats win to teach RINOS a lesson. May I ask you a question? How did the GOP lose? What caused our "thumping" (to quote Bush) any thoughts on that?
270 posted on 11/15/2006 6:37:47 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: longtermmemmory
Thats what so many people don't seem to understand.
The Democrat plan (with the help from Bush) is not to covet the conservative voters, the plan is to simply replace us with Hispanics.
Did you hear the 700 mile Fence is DOA now? (sigh)
271 posted on 11/15/2006 6:40:25 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: Nav_Mom
It is obvious this conversation isn't going anywhere.

I agree.

272 posted on 11/15/2006 2:32:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (My baby is a STAFF SERGEANT!!)
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To: ohioWfan

The Democrat plan (with the help from Bush) is not to covet the conservative voters, the plan is to simply replace us with Hispanics.
Did you hear the 700 mile Fence is DOA now? (sigh)


273 posted on 11/16/2006 10:00:37 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: Nav_Mom
The reason the fence is DOA is because of the anti-Bush forces on both sides of the aisle who agitated and groused and bashed and caused us the loss of the House.

Bush signed the bill. Immigration bots scoffed at him and his signing of it, and we lost the House, so lost the legislation.

Thanks a bunch.

You can hate the President and blame him all you want, but at least take responsibility for what YOU did to lose the fence.

274 posted on 11/16/2006 10:44:13 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Nav_Mom
to simply replace us with Hispanics.

Wow. That's quite a statement.

275 posted on 11/16/2006 10:46:56 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish; Nav_Mom
A completely irrational statement as the result of irrational anger......

Facts don't mean a thing, polly. Just angry, hate-filled rhetoric.

Unfortunately, it has its consequences...........and one of them is losing the fence that we all wanted.....

276 posted on 11/16/2006 11:04:47 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan

I have never understood this kind of thrashing anger. It seems very counterproductive.

But...it is what it is.


277 posted on 11/16/2006 11:15:04 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
It IS counterproductive. And it's false.

The only things that are accomplished by it are negatives.

That's why I think most of them are trolls. Call me a skeptic, but I expect conservatives to be rational.....and this kind of stuff is the antithesis of that.

278 posted on 11/16/2006 11:21:57 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan
I agree. There is no doubt that what we are seeing here does not represent the majority of folks on the right.

There is too much hysteria. Trolls may be right. I don't know. I will say that in the past few weeks I have been stunned at what I've been reading. In fact, I just read a tacit endorsement for Barack Obama...so there you go.
279 posted on 11/16/2006 11:29:22 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: MadIvan

Beat them at their own game bump


280 posted on 11/16/2006 11:31:34 AM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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