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Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 11, 2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by MadIvan

On the morning after the mid-term elections, a humbled President George W Bush called it "a thumping".

But yesterday he described the disastrous result for the Republicans, when Congress turned from Republican red to Democrat blue, as a "great opportunity".

His aides were briefing that he now had the chance to build a domestic policy legacy and use his final two years in the White House to prove that politicians could get things done in Washington.

After a White House coffee meeting yesterday, Mr Bush chuckled as Senator Dick Durbin, part of the new Democratic leadership in the Senate, joked: "I do want to say thanks personally to the president and vice-president for their conciliatory gesture by wearing blue ties today.

"From our side, we think that is a symbolic indication."

Conservative Republicans and wary Democrats fear that Mr Bush might indeed try to steal the Democrats' clothes. "They talked about issues that people care about, and they won," he told the senators.

As a lame-duck president after years of poor relations with Democrats who were bitter about being frozen out of the decision-making process, turning opportunity into legislative reality will be one of the biggest challenges of Mr Bush's political career.

The message from the voters was that they rejected one-party rule in Washington and wanted to see whether divided government could lead to the kind of results Mr Bush was unable to achieve when Republicans were the kings of Capitol Hill.

Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush. The president will want to leave office with achievements under his belt and use his power of veto sparingly.

"The Democrats should adopt a good government strategy rather than a take-no-prisoners strategy," said Senator Birch Bayh, a Democrat who served in the Senate for 18 years.

He believed that Republicans in Congress would adopt a new approach. "They've gotten the signal that people didn't like what was going on, that the well was poisoned. They're not going to be bomb throwers."

In 1996, President Bill Clinton and a Republican-controlled Senate and House of Representatives introduced a welfare reform Bill that became a landmark piece of social legislation. Both parties claimed credit for it. Republican presidents have also signed legislation sent to them by Democratic houses of Congress.

To the dismay of conservative Republicans, Mr Bush has already indicated that he agrees with the Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage. But the centrepiece of his last 24 months in office could be a comprehensive overhaul of America's immigration laws.

His desire for tough border security measures combined with opportunities for many of America's 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens is shared by more Democrats than Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Gardner Peckham, a senior aide to Newt Gingrich, speaker of the House after the Republican takeover of Capitol Hill in 1994, said: "Democrats will have to be very careful not to appear like they're looking backwards and wanting retribution.

"They won't want to look like they're the source of the problem. But they're not going to want the president to look good on any of these issues. The prize is the White House in 2008. Control of Congress is great, but without the White House you can't control the agenda."

Immigration, he suggested, would be "an interesting test" of whether genuine cooperation was possible.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; capitulation; democrats; election; immigration
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To: ohioWfan

You're right and we will have to P.U.S.H. = pray until something happens.


201 posted on 11/11/2006 11:54:20 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: onyx
We ARE the conservative Republican base, onyx.

As far as I'm concerned, not only are those who stayed home in protest not conservative.........they're not even decent Americans.

Our soldiers have bled and died for our right to vote. To stay home because you haven't gotten everything you wanted is to spit on the graves of those who have fallen for our our right to be free.

I think NOTHING of those who betrayed us on November 7th and didn't vote, or voted for a loser third party and took away the victory of the Republican. I don't respect them at all.

202 posted on 11/11/2006 11:54:39 AM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: FairOpinion

Perhaps you're right about them rolling over, but I've always felt that Bush is an excellent user of Machiavellian techniques. I still do, but question where his true core lies.


203 posted on 11/11/2006 11:55:41 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

That does not make you and the others right. He is NOT a liberal.

I have tired of you. Sorry.


204 posted on 11/11/2006 11:56:04 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: ohioWfan

AMEN, ohioWfan.
I agree with your every word!
Bless you, my dear and cherished FRiend.


205 posted on 11/11/2006 11:56:58 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: onyx
"Don't try to lay blame on Indepenedents. "

The GOPers were demoralized, but the swing vote - up to 40% of the electorate - classify themselves as "Independents".

"Pouting purists stayed home and I can hardly wait to hear them howl about SCOTUS."

I didn't "stay home". No one I know "stayed home".
206 posted on 11/11/2006 11:58:57 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Demoralized? HAR! They will know the factual meaning of demoralized very soon.

I have no use for voters who stayed home. NONE.

The stakes were too high and they folded.


207 posted on 11/11/2006 12:06:46 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: ohioWfan


I'll catch you later. I have things to do that can't be stalled any longer.


208 posted on 11/11/2006 12:07:53 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: onyx

LOL! I'm getting outta here too. Miles to go before I sleep....... :)


209 posted on 11/11/2006 12:10:26 PM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Sertorius
I agree, he should be privately meeting with the conservative democrats.

Lieberman wants to caucus with the Democrats.

210 posted on 11/11/2006 12:10:40 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: hinckley buzzard
You mean the 9/10 Bush who let Fats Kennedy write the education bill?

The same bill Fats Kennedy is critical of?

211 posted on 11/11/2006 12:11:57 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
I am just pointing out that he is a loyal Republican maybe not as Conservative as you want but at least he realises where the country is politically and often adjusts the way he says things (not necessary what he believes) to reflect this.

Yes some of the things he has supported have not been good IMHO but if you look at election time he always supports the Republican nominee regardless of wing of the party they come from - that is my point.
212 posted on 11/11/2006 12:12:48 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
I think you have just proved my point anyone who has non conservative and on some issues liberal views (not necessary politically liberal) is a liberal to you.
213 posted on 11/11/2006 12:15:03 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: onyx

Worse than that they are liberal and not just on certain issues to them they are politically liberal as well.


214 posted on 11/11/2006 12:16:00 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: onyx

Correct liberal on certain moral issues does not make you a liberal


215 posted on 11/11/2006 12:17:21 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: RodgerD

I really wish the Rats would just go straight for impeachment

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That’s not going to happen and you aren’t going to be happy with what happens when they start the impeachment talk.


216 posted on 11/11/2006 12:18:14 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: snugs
"I think you have just proved my point anyone who has non conservative and on some issues liberal views (not necessary politically liberal) is a liberal to you."

Holding liberal (and yes, they are politically liberal - there's no distinction) view does make one liberal. Of course it does. Especially when the MAJORITY of one's opinions trend to the left.
217 posted on 11/11/2006 12:18:17 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: snugs
"I am just pointing out that he is a loyal Republican maybe not as Conservative as you want but at least he realises where the country is politically and often adjusts the way he says things (not necessary what he believes) to reflect this."

That just means he's a Clinton - a professional politician.

"Yes some of the things he has supported have not been good IMHO but if you look at election time he always supports the Republican nominee regardless of wing of the party they come from - that is my point."

Doesn't make him not a liberal.
218 posted on 11/11/2006 12:20:34 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: ohioWfan
The base as you quite correctly say are the ones that came out and voted Republican and those who worked to get the vote out whether it be physically or prayerfully.

It may hurt but in certain areas that means the base is not Conservative in little or big C as I said earlier all things are local and candidates and the base in each area reflects this.

IMHO ultra conservatives countrywide will not carry a party to victory either in the US or Britain many parts of both countries are middle ground and centralists win.

We may not like and we may not agree with them but at the end of the day without power we can do nothing and so we have to respect and sometimes vote for people we do not agree with.
219 posted on 11/11/2006 12:22:13 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Many may not have stayed at home but who did they vote for as pointed out by several on this forum in many cases it looks as if they split the vote by voting libertarian.


220 posted on 11/11/2006 12:23:27 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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