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Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 11, 2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by MadIvan

On the morning after the mid-term elections, a humbled President George W Bush called it "a thumping".

But yesterday he described the disastrous result for the Republicans, when Congress turned from Republican red to Democrat blue, as a "great opportunity".

His aides were briefing that he now had the chance to build a domestic policy legacy and use his final two years in the White House to prove that politicians could get things done in Washington.

After a White House coffee meeting yesterday, Mr Bush chuckled as Senator Dick Durbin, part of the new Democratic leadership in the Senate, joked: "I do want to say thanks personally to the president and vice-president for their conciliatory gesture by wearing blue ties today.

"From our side, we think that is a symbolic indication."

Conservative Republicans and wary Democrats fear that Mr Bush might indeed try to steal the Democrats' clothes. "They talked about issues that people care about, and they won," he told the senators.

As a lame-duck president after years of poor relations with Democrats who were bitter about being frozen out of the decision-making process, turning opportunity into legislative reality will be one of the biggest challenges of Mr Bush's political career.

The message from the voters was that they rejected one-party rule in Washington and wanted to see whether divided government could lead to the kind of results Mr Bush was unable to achieve when Republicans were the kings of Capitol Hill.

Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush. The president will want to leave office with achievements under his belt and use his power of veto sparingly.

"The Democrats should adopt a good government strategy rather than a take-no-prisoners strategy," said Senator Birch Bayh, a Democrat who served in the Senate for 18 years.

He believed that Republicans in Congress would adopt a new approach. "They've gotten the signal that people didn't like what was going on, that the well was poisoned. They're not going to be bomb throwers."

In 1996, President Bill Clinton and a Republican-controlled Senate and House of Representatives introduced a welfare reform Bill that became a landmark piece of social legislation. Both parties claimed credit for it. Republican presidents have also signed legislation sent to them by Democratic houses of Congress.

To the dismay of conservative Republicans, Mr Bush has already indicated that he agrees with the Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage. But the centrepiece of his last 24 months in office could be a comprehensive overhaul of America's immigration laws.

His desire for tough border security measures combined with opportunities for many of America's 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens is shared by more Democrats than Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Gardner Peckham, a senior aide to Newt Gingrich, speaker of the House after the Republican takeover of Capitol Hill in 1994, said: "Democrats will have to be very careful not to appear like they're looking backwards and wanting retribution.

"They won't want to look like they're the source of the problem. But they're not going to want the president to look good on any of these issues. The prize is the White House in 2008. Control of Congress is great, but without the White House you can't control the agenda."

Immigration, he suggested, would be "an interesting test" of whether genuine cooperation was possible.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; capitulation; democrats; election; immigration
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To: beyond the sea

Increasing the minimum wage was one of the 1st subjects Bush spoke on and said he could support an increase so long as Small Businesses were not hurt (something to that effect).

It sounded like a tax-break or a federal subsidy for the increase.


121 posted on 11/11/2006 10:39:01 AM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: onyx
"The list is southack's."

I've seen it posted by at least three posters in its entirety with no heads-up to Southack.
122 posted on 11/11/2006 10:40:44 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: ohioWfan
Why is my troll radar beeping so loudly here?? LOL!

Someimtes, it's just so easy! On a good day, I can spot trolls from 3 threads away. Top that! LOL

123 posted on 11/11/2006 10:42:41 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

List authored by Freeper Southack



105 posted on 11/11/2006 11:52:42 AM CST by 1035rep
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124 posted on 11/11/2006 10:43:32 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: beyond the sea

Of course , if he follows the Clinton model. W is not our Party leader. He thinks he is right domestically and he is very wrong. So, do not expect a new or even lame duck Pub Congress to do much for him now and for the next two years. It will be a Dem domestic agenda and that will kill the Pubs Congressionally in '08. Unless the Senate and House Gop goes for new fresh conserv communicators, the Dems will be in power to eternity. Unfortunately, Hugh Hewitt is wrong about his optimism about taking back Congress in '08. How can they if they do not stand up for their ideals and issues?


125 posted on 11/11/2006 10:45:40 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: onyx; Nav_Mom
The pleasure in Bush bashing is accompanied by complete ignorance of what he has been doing.

Maybe you're right though. Maybe she's just an irrational newbie with a bad temper and an even worse case of ignorance, but the combination of comments she has made here makes me think otherwise....

There have been trolls crawling all over the place since Tuesday night, onyx, trying to demoralize and divide. I see this emotional outburst as fitting into the overall goal of the left....

126 posted on 11/11/2006 10:47:02 AM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan
They're pretty obvious spouting their liberal BS taking points. They must think we're as gullible as those lefty lunatics.
127 posted on 11/11/2006 10:48:03 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: onyx

Can't top that, onyx. You're the best. :)


128 posted on 11/11/2006 10:48:11 AM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan
"Another newbie trashing the President while claiming to be a conservative."

Why do you defend the man when he works against conservatives? Conservatives pre-existed the President and will still be fighting for our ideology long after he's a political memory. He DOES NOT define what we believe, what we support, or what the Republican Party's platform is supposed to be. He will be out of office in 2008. We need to start planning NOW where we go from here and to minimize the damage caused by the moderates. We also need to convince the Independents who voted Democrat last Tuesday that Republicans deserve to be back in office. Caving to Democrat demands will make that difficult, don't you think?

Do you really think conservatives would cheer on massive foreign aid packages, Sarbanes-Oxley, signing Campaign Finance Reform, support for a Republican-and-Republic-killing amnesty, trillions in new entitlements, massive federal education spending? Really?

The President is not alone in the blame for most of those listed above, but he certainly won't get kudos from the conservatives in the party for them.

Convince us with the potions of that list the President has done right, not with what he has not.

"Why is my troll radar beeping so loudly here?? LOL!"

Are you willing to debate the issues listed on that list or just call names? This is supposed to be a forum for conservative commentary and discussion. Is it?
129 posted on 11/11/2006 10:48:33 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
I've seen it posted by at least three posters in its entirety with no heads-up to Southack.

Try reading the last line.

 

130 posted on 11/11/2006 10:49:35 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: Nav_Mom

The deal will go soemthing like this: the Dem leadership in Congress might go easier on the subpoenas if Bush nominates judges more like Souter and Stevens. I suspect that this is exactly what will happen.


131 posted on 11/11/2006 10:50:14 AM PST by laconic
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To: 1035rep
Divide and conquer, rep. That's the mission.

Unfortunately the emotional, out of control malcontents here make it easier than it ought to be.

Those of us with our brains still in gear need to hold the fort until things calm down around here.

132 posted on 11/11/2006 10:50:49 AM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: 1035rep
"Try reading the last line. "

That wasn't a ping to Southack, unless this forum's software works differently than I think it does.

Regardless, do YOU see EVERYTHING in that list as a positive?
133 posted on 11/11/2006 10:51:02 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: ohioWfan

Nobody hooks them better than you!!!


134 posted on 11/11/2006 10:51:22 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: ohioWfan

Amen Ohio!


135 posted on 11/11/2006 10:52:51 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep
Or, they claim to be the greatest conservatives ever on Free Republic and then they sound just like Kerry, Piglosi, Dubin, Klintoon, Kennedy or the Bush haters below:


136 posted on 11/11/2006 10:53:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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To: ohioWfan

A troll in my book but others may say ultra right wing conservative.


137 posted on 11/11/2006 10:53:44 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
I prefer to discuss issues with people I know are conservatives, as I am. Not with people who signed on a few days ago and mimic the rhetoric and bash the President.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, Enoch.

138 posted on 11/11/2006 10:54:05 AM PST by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: 1035rep

Well sure - but other than THAT what as he done?

(Bookmarking for a great list - thanks!)


139 posted on 11/11/2006 10:55:43 AM PST by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: snugs
He will chip away and have small victories some we will never even know aboutz

Pathetic fantasy. Not even worthy of a "toaster" on that photo thread/sewing circle.

Your Bush has spent four days crowing about how now he can finally get his leftist immigration plans in action. Next year he's going to sign into law a massive explosion in third world migration that will permanently kill American conservatism, effectively merge the USA with Mexico, and generally speed our homeland's slide into the abyss.

140 posted on 11/11/2006 10:55:47 AM PST by RodgerD
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