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1 posted on 11/10/2006 7:27:00 PM PST by outofstyle
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A Few Reasons Here
51 posted on 11/10/2006 8:14:27 PM PST by apackof2 (They don't care how much you know until they know how much you care)
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I agree -- conservatives lost -- because the current vehicle for conservative change in the USA is the Republican Party and Republicans lost. Republicans showed that once they were in power they weren't interested in enacting conservative agenda, but in preserving and enhancing their own power by any means necessary. The attitude exhibited by Republicans was one of "it's our turn now." That's not why we elected them.


57 posted on 11/10/2006 8:19:23 PM PST by Praxeas (Stuck in Irak)
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Fact of life

GOP voters do have standards

Democrats don't and will vote for anybody


60 posted on 11/10/2006 8:21:27 PM PST by uncbob
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The answer is because it's just the tip of the iceberg. Look at how the conservatives for years railed against the Democratic liberal establishment and all of its money, the lobbying establishment, the junkets, the payoffs. The conservatives campaigned against it in 1994, only to take over Washington and do exactly the same thing. This is what is known as rank hypocrisy.

What's sauce for the goose is good for the gander.

Is it unfair that when conservatives do things liberals do, that they, the conservatives, are labeled as hypocrites? No.

According to that great conservative thinker Russell Kirk, the first tenet of conservatism is the preservation of the moral order. True conservatives don't look at government as a plaything by which they can impose their latest ideas on the country;

Like Bush Jr's invasion of Iraq when all the evidence points to the Wahhabi Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as the custodian, financial sponsor and spiritual advisor to the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001!

TERRORISM FINANCING: ROOTS AND TRENDS OF SAUDI TERRORISM FINANCING

66 posted on 11/10/2006 8:29:21 PM PST by Mel Gibson (Read the book, "Hatred's Kingdom" by Dore Gold)
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True conservatives don't look at government as a plaything by which they can impose their latest ideas on the country;

Does this include amnesty?

70 posted on 11/10/2006 8:41:37 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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I think he is exactly right. Conservatives weren't defeated by liberals. Conservatives beat themselves. Only a blind man could fail to see how corrupt it had become. These earmarks are really just outrageous in the extreme. This is not Republicanism. This is not even Democratism. This is gross irresponsibility and greed.


75 posted on 11/10/2006 8:53:25 PM PST by RichardW
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I agree with much of what Chuck Colson says, but I also find it very strange that with Chuck Colson as one of the major players in the Watergate Scandal that he should be the one talking all about one's "character"! It's just like Senator Ted Kennedy discussing all about the wrongs of "water torture".


85 posted on 11/10/2006 10:07:06 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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I-R-A-Q.

According to that great conservative thinker Russell Kirk, the first tenet of conservatism is the preservation of the moral order. True conservatives don't look at government as a plaything by which they can impose their latest ideas on the country; they look at political power as a guardianship, what Chesterton called the democracy of the dead. In other words, we have a debt to those who have gone before us, and the primary debt is to preserve the moral and constitutional order that our forebears fought to defend.

Moral order is too vague a phrase, it is weasel words. It isn't moral order that conservatives should preserve, but the specific order, the folkways, laws and traditions of the culture. Communists have moral order. Conservatism is irrelevant in the face of immigration so vast that it will make the "natives" a minority in their own homeland. It's a change so big that it makes conservation impossible.

86 posted on 11/10/2006 10:08:45 PM PST by jordan8
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Colson's lost it! It's not Conservatives high standards that were lost...it's the values (lack of) of Rino Republicans and Republican pretenders to Conservative principles that brought this "thumping".

If we are to survive in an age of Muslim assertiveness, is is only Conservative and Christian principles that will win the battle. Multiculturalism's a loser.

87 posted on 11/10/2006 10:10:42 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Theselves.)
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I like this reason better why we didn't win:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2006/11/08/the_road_not_taken__forfeiting_a_majority


93 posted on 11/10/2006 10:35:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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What kind of person would stay home and not vote......giving the election to people who hate the Lord, celebrate every evil perversion, want to remove any vestige of religion from public life, want our little children indoctrinated with the homosexual agenda?

And then sit back and say republicans deserved to lose.

I see hypocrites here, but not the people who voted republican, the ones who sat home and are now gloating.

94 posted on 11/10/2006 10:38:01 PM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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Conservatives had very little representation in this election. Republicans lost.

Conservatism is principle. Republican is a party.

Placing party over principle is a practice of those with weak character.

102 posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:01 PM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
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Bet no one outside of Indy will hear that there are 18 voting machines still missing. Might have a little to do with the Carson- Dickerson race. Baglady supposedly won. HMMNNN Wonder where they went?


115 posted on 11/11/2006 4:41:02 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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in a sound byte, "DINO trumps RINO"


democrats ran as communists in conservative clothing and won.

republicans ran as conservatives in moderate clothing and lost.

the end.


123 posted on 11/11/2006 6:36:56 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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bump


141 posted on 11/12/2006 12:37:02 PM PST by Tribune7
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Conservatives did not lose. Obstinate Republicans lost. If one bothers to research the Dems that won, they ran on a more conservative platform. Es tut mir leid.


143 posted on 11/12/2006 5:54:10 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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Why Conservatives Lost


144 posted on 11/12/2006 6:07:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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Conservatives didn't lose because of moral issues or corruption. The danger to many Americans is too far removed and they're tired of hearing the same message. Sometimes voters want a change but Democrats will fall on their face although they may lie to cover it up and buy votes through handouts. Republicans today tend to look back at Republican losses with horror because there is so much at stake and Democrats have a record of holding power for far longer than Republicans through cheating and deep corruption that is hard to fight because it exists on so many levels. Yet we have new tools like the bloggers and the shadow of Nixon is a distant memory that can't dog us anymore. Republicans just need to find the truth about Democrats and themselves. Republicans need to ask themselves, "why do I believe what I believe". New answers need to be given to the public to preserve some of the traditional values that are endangered. We need clarity and we need spokesmen to proclaim it.


151 posted on 11/12/2006 11:06:10 PM PST by TheThinker
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