The Antibiotic Vitamin

Science News ^ | 11-10-2006 | Janet Raloff

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Hmmmmmmmmmm, I've always wondered how northern peoples could stand living with extended darkness.

What do the natives eat? Lots of fish (and therefore fish oil) and things that eat fish...

[blam]

"Hmmmmmmmmmm, I've always wondered how northern peoples could stand living with extended darkness."

"What do the natives eat? Lots of fish (and therefore fish oil) and things that eat fish...A"

I've read one anthropologist (Marvin Harris, I think) who said the Eskimo/Inuits didn't have to turn white because of the seafood diet. On the other hand, the Northern Chinese (inland) are lighter skinned than all others.

[Dysart]

Thanks for the useful and provocative post, blamster.

Intriguing info-worth more study too. I just downed a bottle of Vitamin D and feeling better already. No bug can touch me now :)

[RouxStir]

"'You have the cause and effect reversed.'
Kindly explain.'

There is a relationship but not exactly that lack of D3 caused white people to be white. More likely that dark skinned peoples developed the darker pigmentation to protect against skin cancer and the overproduction of D-3. If one assumes that man arose from apes, the majority of an apes skin is not pigmented. Lighter skinned people do usually require less supplemental D3 than do darker skinned people receiving the same exposure to the sun. So there is a relationship but not clearly cause and effect.

[Moonman62]

I would think that a D3 deficiency would be more likely to kill before the age of reproduction than skin cancer.

[blam]

Okay, I understand.

[oyez]

They would use large sunny rooms appropriately named solariums. They used leaded glass in the windows because regular soda glass sucked up the UV rays.

[Daaave]

If you get plenty of sun wouldn't you automatically get plenty of Vit D?

I don't know.

[syriacus]

They would use large sunny rooms appropriately named solariums. They used leaded glass in the windows because regular soda glass sucked up the UV rays.

Thanks for providing the interesting information!!

[Nailbiter]

ping self

[BellStar]

If you get plenty of sun wouldn't you automatically get plenty of Vit D?

Yes!
But I go one step further!
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[auboy]

de bump

[oyez]

U R very welcome.

[television is just wrong]

you have to take several thousand IU's for several months to get that effect. Just take your vitamin A cap ok, LOL

[Cold Heart]

Television just died at my house. Grandson (3yr) sprayed the TV with the carpet cleaner that I had used to clean up his barf while I was reading the Vitmin D content of my daily vitamin bottle.

Oh yea, and the one year old is pulling my reference books down as I type.

[Pharmboy]

The carotenoids in their diet.

[Pharmboy]

Here's a recent review from the renal literature on the immunomodulating effects of viatmin D (really a hormone rather than a vitamin). Patients with moderate to severe kidney disease cannot accomplish the last step in vitamin D activation (since they lose the enzymatic ability in their kidneys), and that's why nephrologists are interested in this "vitamin."

Clinical Nephrology. 2006 Oct;66(4):275-83.

Immunomodulation by 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3: therapeutic implications in hemodialysis and renal transplantation.

Mathieu C, Jafari M.
Department of Endocrinology, UZ Gasthuisberg, Leuven, Belgium.

The active metabolite of vitamin D3, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3, is a secosteroid hormone that regulates calcium and bone metabolism, controls cell proliferation and differentiation, and plays an important role as an immunomodulator. Recent advances in understanding the mechanisms underlying 1,25(OH)2D3 immune actions expand the range of the therapeutic implications of 1,25(OH)2D3 and its analogs. This review will cover the current knowledge on vitamin D-mediated immunotolerance and recent advances in vitamin D-based therapies for the treatment of autoimmune disease and the prevention of graft rejection in renal transplantation. Initiation of vitamin D-based therapies at earlier stages of chronic kidney disease may impact the immune status of patients who progress to require dialysis or transplantation.

[television is just wrong]

Oh, my.
My mother, has 15 tv's in her house. Including the 2 bathrooms. She can watch well when she is not available for anything else. 3 bedroom house, with a den, side patio. All rooms have at least one tv. There is even a couple of them in the garage. Incredible. Maybe I can snitch one for you.

she is who drove me to be anti tv.

[blam]

Thanks for the input (I think). Just saying it's good for you is sufficent for me, lol.

[Pharmboy]

Well, there's often a lot of claims made for nutritionals that are imaginary, and I just wanted to show the thread that this stuff on D is real.

Also, I would recommend cholecalciferol, about 1,000 IU/day. Cholecalciferol is the natural stuff for humans which is produced in the skin by the action of sunlight on cholesterol. It is then altered by adding a hydroxyl group (OH) first in the liver and then in the kidney to get the final active hormone (see below):

Ergocalciferol is the plant equivalent of cholecalciferol, but it is not as potent a source for the active form as is the latter.