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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

The north had a draft and won, WWI had a draft and 99% of the world knows we won, WWII had a draft and we damn sure won. You can't back up your incorrect statement by rewriting history. Please go spin your "logic" elsewhere.


69 posted on 11/10/2006 2:24:39 PM PST by TWfromTEXAS (We are at war - Man up or Shut up.)
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To: TWfromTEXAS

1. The North didn't need the draft to win. The South needed the draft just to have an army after 1862.

2. 99% of the world is wrong. We didn't win. We just didn't lose, and that's not the same thing as winning. And we could have done a call for volunteers without conscription and still raised the army needed to win--we could've invaded Germany, but wimped out. So the draft was unnecessary, and did not give us victory.

3. Did you read my comment carefully? In WW2, the draft was not a means for acquiring bodies, it was a means for MANAGING the flow of those bodies. The draft was superfluous, and the manpower management issue could've been solved without conscription.

4. Please learn how to read. My comment was that if you need a draft just to get the bodies, you're losing anyway.


80 posted on 11/10/2006 2:31:19 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: TWfromTEXAS
We needed the draft in WWI and WWII. We don't need one now unless we get in a major war again.

Another reason the left says we need a draft is because they say only poor people volunteer and the rich get off scott free. However, the same thing happened when we had a draft (the rich had ways to avoid it). Plus, only the so called poor (or at least not the rich) work in a lot dangerous jobs (firefighter, police, iron workers, etc.), but does that mean we should make the so called rich volunteer for those jobs too? It is more crazy left ideas.
88 posted on 11/10/2006 2:32:43 PM PST by Hendrix
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To: TWfromTEXAS

"The north had a draft and won, WWI had a draft and 99% of the world knows we won, WWII had a draft and we damn sure won. You can't back up your incorrect statement by rewriting history."

What makes you think the draft was needed to win any of those wars? You don't believe people would fight for their own survival? Rangel was, is and will always be an idiot. When and if (it will never happen) a bill to reinstate the draft lands on W's desk, The correct response would be "After the "thumpin" we took in the election, I understand that the american people want this kind of change and I defer to the party in power". And then sign the thing.


120 posted on 11/10/2006 2:49:36 PM PST by ImAmerican
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To: TWfromTEXAS

Were you ever in the military when it had a draft? I was. During WWII and before, the draft consisted of ordinary citizens who were motivated and came from across the spectrum of citizenry. I can remember in 1968-1976 what it was like and, to a large part, it wasn't the fine group of motivated professionals we have today. There is no comparison at all. The problem can get so bad with unmotivated soldiers that it affects the whole unit. If the US military today were to become infected (through a draft)with some of the likes of our 'citizens' today, disaster would certainly follow.


159 posted on 11/10/2006 3:23:40 PM PST by Gaffer
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