[madprof98]

As always, Father Neuhaus is right on target. Too bad he's an evil theocrat likely to be jailed by Nancy Pelosi.

[AppyPappy]

Haggard was willingly seduced by Satan. He was in sin before he started fooling around with prostitutes and drugs. He was seduced by the favors of the world. Satan just called in the bill.

Someone asked me if this could cause people to leave that church. I said I sure hoped so. These moments are the times when the sheep are separated from the goats.

[LiteKeeper]

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[Pan_Yans Wife]

70 percent of Americans personally know someone who is gay.

In one family that I know of, there is a third cousin, a second cousin, a cousin, and a parent who are either gay or bisexual. And none of these people are closely connected... they may have seen each other once every seven years or so at family gatherings.

I don't know what explains the high numbers in this group. And conversely I do know of other families where there are no gay family members.

I think all statistics should be set aside for now, because nothing seems to be conclusive.

[AppyPappy]

The problem is that Ted chose the East

Gen 13:10 And Lot lifted up his eyes and saw all the circuit of Jordan, that it was all well watered (before Jehovah destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah,) like the garden of Jehovah, like the land of Egypt as you come to Zoar.
Gen 13:11 And Lot chose all the circuit of Jordan for himself. And Lot journeyed east; and they separated themselves from one another.

[x]

If a Ted Haggard is by every indicator a good husband and father of his children, and also a preacher who teaches that homosexuality is morally disordered, but occasionally falls into sin and consorts with a male homosexual, it is obvious to such advocates that he is not a good husband and father but is gay. And a hypocrite to boot.

This is a self-serving illogicality that is not likely to convince anyone not captive to the gay ideology. I expect most people will continue to hold with the maxim to hate the sin and love the sinner.

That's really tricky. If he were caught with a woman we might hate the sin and love the sinner, but wouldn't call him a good husband and father.

[Beauceron]

First Things' blog, like the journal itself, is always worth reading.

[little jeremiah]

I think he makes some good points. I'm tired of anything about Haggard, but Father Neuhaus uses this to make larger points.

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