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No more cops for the Valley (Secession was a good thing)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 11/10/06 | SUE DOYLE, Staff Writer

Posted on 11/10/2006 9:36:58 AM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: bill1952

http://www.csun.edu/sfverc/censusdata.htm

All kinds of great data here.... 25% of LA is illegal.


21 posted on 11/10/2006 9:58:47 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I'm thinking that it's very easy to combat gangs, drug-dealing, and all the rest.

You simply get into an old car, and start driving around slowly while a passenger runs a video camera. After 2-3 passes, the drug dealers close up shop, the ho's go away, and the word is definitely out.

On several occasions, I've "confronted" local kids that I knew were dealing drugs. I told them that I'd heard that (gasp!) drugs were being sold, and asked them if they knew anything about that. They always said "no", started calling me "sir" (a dead giveaway of guilt), and we agreed that they'd call me if they heard of anything. It always took care of the problem.

The key here is that the neigbors allow it, usually because it's their kids (and tenants!) doing the bad stuff. I've seen dozens of cases, some locally, where the residents fight the cops in everything they do, then have the gall to b*tch about the violence. Go figure.


22 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:19 AM PST by TWohlford
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To: MplsSteve

Most of the valley was white middle class in the 80s. The population was about 3.5 million. The crime rate was low. It was a pretty good place to live. Today it's morphed to a considerable hispanic populace. One can only surmise if they are legal or not. The crime rate is high. The signage often in Spanish.

I made the mistake of visiting a well known name brand store on Van Nuys Boulevard at Roscoe about eighteen months ago. It was about 6:00 p.m. Inside the signs were all in large letters, Spanish. Under that there was a small print English translation. It was a culture shock to be sure.

Van Nuys boulevard looks like a foreign country these days. A lot of the businesses have gone down hill.

I was warned later on not to go to that area after dark. It seems there's a very large gang presence and you're sticking your neck on the line if you do.

This is what the supporters of open borders on this forum are supporting for your area in the near future.

Oh excuse me, nobody here wants open borders. Just don't suggest a way to close them. "Those are all problematic."


23 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Did you see that article about a year ago, where something like 50% of the male working age populace in Los Angeles couldn't read or write eighth grade level English.

I forget the exact particulars, but it was a very sad commentary.


24 posted on 11/10/2006 10:05:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne

http://dailynews.com/homicides

Here is an interactive map of the homocides. Doesnt include yesterday's.


25 posted on 11/10/2006 10:07:35 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: MplsSteve

There are many burglaries in the South Valley because there is stuff to steal and the laborers from the North Valley have a chance to case the neighborhoods while they are working on projects in the South.

Violence is predominately in the North and North East Valley where there the population is mostly Latino. There is the occasional shooting in the South. I'm not sure the shooters live there, but they are there for school (bussed in from the city) or other purposes.

There is a gang of robbers that probably come in from the city that hit restaurants along Ventura Bl, often taking not just the cash from the register, but robbing the patrons of their cash and jewelry.


26 posted on 11/10/2006 10:07:45 AM PST by LA Conservative (Clinton: The worst president we've ever had - The worst man we've ever had as President)
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To: TWohlford

LOL, I'm not sure where you're employing those tactics, but if it's in the Los Angeles area, I'd suggest you think twice about what you're doing.

Gangs out here have some great initiations. A lot of the drive-by or freeway shootings are the result of prospective members meeting the requirements.

If you run into some of the Salvadoran gangs, you won't have to do a darned thing to risk your life. And if you challenge their turf, your family will be putting daisies on the dirt above you in the near future.


27 posted on 11/10/2006 10:08:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Now if you dont live south of Ventura Blvd, or north of the 118, you are in the free kill zone.

Oh, come on. It's not that bad. I live near Burbank and Woodman. It's hardly Sadr City on a Saturday night.

28 posted on 11/10/2006 10:10:10 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: BurbankKarl

Well, the Chief his priorities and I think we should all applaud his courage. After all, it is much easier to roust the homeless and cite jay walkers than it is to fight real criminals. Way to go Chief! My hero!


29 posted on 11/10/2006 10:10:14 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Why BK, you really are a xenophobe aren't you.

LOL

I'd not seen that before. I do appreciate the link.


30 posted on 11/10/2006 10:11:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: BurbankKarl

If it was made illegal for citizens to carry or own firearms, then all of this gang violence would stop.


31 posted on 11/10/2006 10:16:20 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BurbankKarl

Secede, secede!!! We need to get out of the shadows of Los Angeles.


32 posted on 11/10/2006 10:16:40 AM PST by siddude
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To: BurbankKarl

I grew up in the valley during the late 80s and early 90s. My family moved to Malibu, and I moved to the Westside. After my wife and I got married we bought our first house in Simi Valley (we love it here, West of of San Fernando Valley). Goign back to the San Fernando Valley has been a culture shock. I don't even recognize it anymore.

Shopping carts strewn about, signs in Spanish, and shopping centers that look like they came from a 3rd world country.

Was quite saddened by it actually. I wonder how long Simi Valley has to go until the Westward/Northward march continues for those of us who speak English (and hell, I'm not even white, my parents are immigrants to this country -- legal).


33 posted on 11/10/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by rom
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To: BurbankKarl
Let's try that again.

Neighborhood Population Hispanic White NativAm Asian PacIsland Black
San Fernando 24,804 91.4% 6.4% 0.5% 0.9% 0.0% 0.7%
Pacoima 69,032 88.8% 3.9% 0.3% 1.4% 0.0% 5.5%
Arleta 29,452 81.6% 7.6% 0.4% 8.7% 0.1% 1.6%
Sylmar 64,079 75.1% 16.9% 0.4% 2.8% 0.1% 4.7%
Panorama City 77,908 74.7% 8.3% 0.2% 13.2% 0.1% 3.4%
Sun Valley 54,539 71.7% 20.3% 0.3% 6.3% 0.1% 1.4%
Mission Hills 18,764 69.0% 17.6% 0.4% 9.3% 0.1% 3.6%
Lake View Terrace 18,481 69.0% 9.7% 0.4% 4.9% 0.1% 16.0%
Van Nuys 128,078 59.2% 26.3% 0.3% 7.5% 0.2% 6.5%
North Hills 62,900 58.8% 22.6% 0.2% 13.4% 0.2% 4.7%
Canoga Park 44,254 58.1% 25.4% 0.4% 11.3% 0.2% 4.7%
North Hollywood 153,406 58.0% 28.2% 0.3% 7.8% 0.2% 5.4%
Valley Glen 49,839 51.2% 37.8% 0.3% 5.6% 0.1% 5.0%
Reseda 64,020 49.8% 31.9% 0.3% 13.0% 0.1% 4.8%
Winnetka 50,594 48.9% 27.3% 0.3% 17.7% 0.2% 5.6%
Granada Hills 68,748 33.0% 45.2% 0.4% 17.1% 0.1% 4.3%
Tujunga 25,767 29.3% 60.0% 0.4% 7.2% 0.1% 3.0%
Burbank 105,127 25.3% 61.2% 0.4% 10.8% 0.1% 2.2%
Northridge 84,334 24.6% 50.2% 0.2% 18.8% 0.2% 6.0%
Valley Village 20,705 23.1% 64.3% 0.2% 5.3% 0.1% 7.0%
Sunland 23,321 22.7% 66.7% 0.6% 7.4% 0.1% 2.5%
Glendale 203,905 18.8% 60.2% 0.2% 19.3% 0.1% 1.4%
Tarzana 34,714 16.1% 72.3% 0.2% 7.0% 0.1% 4.4%
Chatsworth 41,379 14.2% 62.0% 0.3% 20.2% 0.1% 3.2%
Woodland Hills 70,541 13.7% 74.1% 0.2% 7.8% 0.1% 4.0%
Sherman Oaks 56,280 11.2% 76.5% 0.3% 6.7% 0.1% 5.2%
West Hills 42,405 11.1% 72.4% 0.3% 13.4% 0.1% 2.6%
Toluca Lake 6,298 9.7% 79.9% 0.3% 5.0% 0.0% 5.0%
Encino 48,605 9.1% 82.1% 0.2% 5.6% 0.1% 2.9%
Studio City 41,400 8.1% 81.6% 0.2% 5.8% 0.1% 4.2%
Calabasas-Hidden Hills 24,920 4.8% 86.9% 0.1% 7.1% 0.0% 1.1%

34 posted on 11/10/2006 10:27:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: BurbankKarl

You're a wellspring of information this morning. Thanks again.


35 posted on 11/10/2006 10:28:02 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I did that also. It's good info.


36 posted on 11/10/2006 10:30:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It'd be interesting to have columns with number of murders and murders per capita, on each line.


37 posted on 11/10/2006 10:34:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

Good link finding that info.

News reports of crime are generally sanitized, if you catch my drift.


38 posted on 11/10/2006 10:36:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Google "the color of crime".

I have issues with the site, in general, but the data looks solid.

And that sanitization is a national thing.


39 posted on 11/10/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks for the tip. Yes, it is national. We wouldn't want folks to get nervous.


40 posted on 11/10/2006 10:40:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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