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Dollar Drops as China to Diversify Holdings
MoneyNews ^ | November 10, 2006

Posted on 11/10/2006 8:33:03 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Dollar Drops as China to Diversify Holdings

MoneyNews Friday, Nov. 10, 2006

LONDON -- The dollar sank to a two-month low on Friday after further comments from China's central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan on the bank's plans to diversify its $1 trillion in currency reserves, while European and Asia shares fell amid soft economic data.

Already under pressure after a weak reading of U.S. consumer sentiment, the dollar extended Thursday's losses after Zhou said China had a clear plan to diversify its FX reserves.

Zhou, speaking at a meeting of central bankers in Frankfurt, said diversification would include different currencies and investment instruments. Although Zhou said there was no change to China's long-standing diversification policy, many traders took his comments to mean China might buy fewer dollars as the country's massive current account surpluses swells its coffers.

"Undoubtedly, the dollar has weakened on the comments. But on the basis of the comments in and of themselves, I wouldn't expect the dollar to continue weakening," said Todd Elmer, currency strategist at Citigroup.

"I'd expect the trend of reserve diversification to be unfavourable for the dollar over time, but we have to be cautious. I'm not sure this rhetoric means you should chase the dollar weakness, but I wouldn't expect significant dollar rebound in the near term," Elmer said, citing interest rate differentials in the coming weeks that are unlikely to be dollar-positive.

The dollar hit its lowest level in more than two months against a basket of major currencies and touched a 2-1/2 month low against the euro at $1.29 per euro.

The dollar and other currencies also came under pressure against the yen overnight after Bank of Japan Governor Toshihiko Fukui said he was concerned about a sharp unwinding of carry trades in which investors borrow the low-yielding Japanese currency and buy higher yielding currencies.

The dollar was buying 117.35 yen.

SHARES DIP

The FTSEurofirst 300 was down 0.1 percent at 1,465.3 points, off Thursday's 5-1/2 year high as weakness in pharmaceutical stocks in particular weighed.

Concerns that drug companies may eventually face price controls from the U.S. government have arisen since Democrats won both the House of Representatives and the Senate in U.S. mid-term elections.

"The view is that for the next little while, that will be a headwind to drug companies in the U.S. It's a sentiment thing," said Stephen Dowds, head of international equities at Northern Trust.

AstraZeneca was down 2.2 percent and rival GlaxoSmithKline fell 1.7 percent.

However, equity markets overall looked attractive, with solid growth and reasonable company earnings, Dowds said.

"Corporate balance sheets are very strong, people are looking for growth and there's a lot of cash sitting on the sidelines in either private equity hands or even in quoted companies' balance sheets."

Data showing the French economy unexpectedly stagnated in the third quarter did equities few favours, while weaker-than-expected machinery orders in Japan helped push the Nikkei to a one-month closing low of 16,112.4 points.

EURO ZONE BONDS FIRM

The prospect of China diversifying further out of dollar denominated assets proved a boost for European government bonds on hopes they might attract more Chinese buying, but analysts noted it was a gradual process.

"It's been an issue for months. We are certainly seeing some diversification into euro zone bonds, but I don't think it's on as big a scale as many people think," said ING's Padhraic Garvey.

The December Bund future rallied to test key resistance at 118.00, up 18 ticks, while the 10-year note was yielding 3.718 percent.

Gold edged up as the dollar weakened and as investors speculated China would diversify into bullion or other commodities.

Zhou said diversification included currencies and investment instruments including emerging markets but asked if this included gold, he said: "That's a separate thing."

Spot gold was trading around $634 an ounce, having touched a two-month peak around $636.50.

Oil prices retreated, giving up most of Thursday's gains as traders booked profits. The International Energy Agency (IEA) noted that inventories in OECD nations had risen at a rate of 1.15 million barrels per day during the third-quarter, the highest third-quarter build in 15 years, but also predicted a jump in demand during the current quarter.

U.S. light crude was down 72 cents at $60.44 a barrel.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; diversification; dollar; economy
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To: dennisw
The anticipation is killing me. I give up. What's the answer?
141 posted on 11/14/2006 9:08:00 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Which nation produces oil & gas, produces gold, has large foreign currency reserves.... AND would benefit most from USD being dislodged as the world's top reserve currency? With it being replaced by gold and the Euro.


142 posted on 11/14/2006 9:09:19 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The point is they can buy things with those dollars.

And if they buy things, that's bad for us? Why?

They can also flood the market and send the dollar spiraling downward should we ever piss them off, or if they find it in their strategic interests.

Flood the market? How many dollars do they get each year? $200 billion? Our GDP is over $12 trillion. Do you realize how big the currency market is? Spiraling down?

And if they were successful, and the dollar did spiral down, what have they accomplished? We'll import less, especially from them and we'll export more. That'll hurt us or them?

We have become dependent on a Communist country for our manufactured goods,

Dependent? How much do they sell us? How much do we make ourselves?

143 posted on 11/14/2006 9:20:22 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: dennisw

In terms of what? If Russia, Red China and Europe succeed in diminishing the US in world affairs, it will be an unmitigated disaster both for the US and all freedom-loving people everywhere (especially Israel).


144 posted on 11/14/2006 9:23:06 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Russia is the answer. They produce gold, oil & gas and have large currency reserves due to high energy prices. No other nation fits the bill


145 posted on 11/14/2006 9:25:26 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Russia


146 posted on 11/14/2006 9:25:46 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: dennisw
How does Russia benefit if the Euro is the new reserve currency?
147 posted on 11/14/2006 9:30:57 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; GSlob

==And if they were successful, and the dollar did spiral down, what have they accomplished? We'll import less, especially from them and we'll export more. That'll hurt us or them?

If news reports are correct, Red China currently holds about 1/12 of our GDP in currency reserves. That's huge. If they ever decided to dump those dollars (or even seriously threatened to) it could start a wave of selling that could very well prove devastating to the USD (the effects of which would be felt around the world). Red China can also use its reserves to buy raw materials, oil, technology, build its military, or fund revolution abroad.


148 posted on 11/14/2006 9:31:18 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Russia would benefit from gold being re-elevated to a reserve currency status. Russia would love to sink the dollar. They are not so much pro-Euro as anti USD. Elevating the Euro to a much broader role as reserve currency helps sink the USD


149 posted on 11/14/2006 9:35:33 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: GodGunsGuts
If news reports are correct, Red China currently holds about 1/12 of our GDP in currency reserves. That's huge.

How large is the currency market? How many dollars are bought/sold each day?

If they ever decided to dump those dollars (or even seriously threatened to) it could start a wave of selling that could very well prove devastating to the USD (the effects of which would be felt around the world).

And what happens when the dollar is devastated?

Red China can also use its reserves to buy raw materials, oil, technology, build its military, or fund revolution abroad.

Which is different than sending the dollar spiraling down.

150 posted on 11/14/2006 9:35:51 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: dennisw
Russia would indeed benefit...which is bad enough. But what is really disconcerting is how we have allowed the free-trade mantra to be used to build up our most formidable and determined enemies, while at the same time reducing our own power and prestige in world affairs. We are like the Prodigal son who squandered his fortune (on his enemies, no less!) for temporal pleasure.
151 posted on 11/14/2006 9:36:49 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: dennisw
Russia would benefit from gold being re-elevated to a reserve currency status.

I hope you're not holding your breathe waiting for that to happen.

Elevating the Euro to a much broader role as reserve currency helps sink the USD

You still haven't explained how that helps Russia.

152 posted on 11/14/2006 9:37:57 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL Why don't you run along and ask Vlad Putin why that helps Russia


153 posted on 11/14/2006 9:45:17 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Russia would indeed benefit...which is bad enough. But what is really disconcerting is how we have allowed the free-trade mantra to be used to build up our most formidable and determined enemies, while at the same time reducing our own power and prestige in world affairs. We are like the Prodigal son who squandered his fortune (on his enemies, no less!) for temporal pleasure.

We are like the football team that runs the score up to 60-3 by half time. Then slacks off to be fair, so the other team can try to even up the score, so it doesn't lose so lopsidedly

154 posted on 11/14/2006 9:49:40 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: dennisw
The score is a lot closer than most think, and the game (by our own volition in many cases) is increasingly taking on proportions outside our control. Or, in the words of Monte Guild:


This is so well known that even Business Week has an article in the November 20th issue entitled, “Can Anyone Steer this Economy?” It states, “Global forces have taken control of the [U.S.] economy. And government regardless of party will have less influence than ever.” This is a point that we have made frequently, for the last several years. The global economy runs the show, and not the U.S. economy.

http://www.jsmineset.com/
155 posted on 11/14/2006 9:59:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

What does one accomplish by causing a serious disruption to the enemy? If dollar spirals down, then oil is going up, for starters.


156 posted on 11/14/2006 10:02:25 AM PST by GSlob
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To: dennisw
LOL Why don't you run along and ask Vlad Putin why that helps Russia

I understand now. China is going to hurt the dollar, making their exports less competitive and making their oil imports more expensive all to help Putin.

Why didn't I see it earlier? You're a prophet!

157 posted on 11/14/2006 10:10:40 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Over $75k in anual earnings IS middle class. At least here in Washington it is. It is probably lower middle class in California.

$75k is not much.


158 posted on 11/14/2006 10:12:48 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: GodGunsGuts
And government regardless of party will have less influence than ever

This moron thinks that's a bad thing? And you agree? LOL!

159 posted on 11/14/2006 10:12:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

With all due respect, I think that, in your zealous (jealous?) rush to dump on the American economy, you forgot that your "gold-bug" avatar would actually WELCOME a collapse of the dollar. Ooooops...

So I conclude that you have "out-smarted" (out-stupided?) yourself on this thread.

By the way, it IS nice to see that Business Week has finally begun to notice the workings of the "Invisible Hand". Do you think they've hired an economist?


160 posted on 11/14/2006 10:23:48 AM PST by pfony1
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