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Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"
Bottom Line Up Front ^ | 11/09/06 | Amy Procttor

Posted on 11/10/2006 6:57:10 AM PST by Col. Bob

Nancy Pelosi was interviewed on Fox Report tonight and asked what her plan for victory in Iraq would look like. After a few seconds of stammering, the obvious awkward moment ended. Here's Nancy Pelosi on defining victory in Iraq:

“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

"This isn't a war to win"? This is the next SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES? We're doomed.

See the video on Amy's URL:

Discover the Network put it this way:

"Bipartisanship" has been a keyword in many of Pelosi's speeches. In an address she delivered in 2002, for instance, she remarked, "We must stand together in a bipartisan way to fight the war against terrorism." Though she supported the Clinton Administration's military actions in Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia, she has denounced both the 1991 and 2003 wars in Iraq. Pelosi has also opposed President George W. Bush on most issues of Homeland Security, and has most recently joined the ACLU's crusade to limit the powers of the Patriot Act.

Hypocrisy anyone?

(Excerpt) Read more at amyproctor.squarespace.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; pelosi; waronterror
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To: gridlock
Several of the 9/11 hijackers listed the US intervention in Kosovo as one of their motivations in attacking the US.

Really? I didn't hear that. That would be significant. It means the hijackers' real beef is that Americans interacted of their own volition with Kosovar Moslems while standing on their feet instead of lying on their bellies.

121 posted on 11/10/2006 9:27:18 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: ilgipper
create voter remorse early

I think the dimwits have already made a good start on this themselves. Who was it that said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's busy making a mistake?"

122 posted on 11/10/2006 9:32:58 AM PST by Sicon
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To: gridlock
It still surprises me that so many people voted for this.

Did you ever notice if the Republicans win The donks cry "FRAUD, let slip the dogs of LAW" to coin a phrase. Whenever the donks win...

(crickets chirping)

Where are the dead that once slept undisturbed in their tombs?(walking back from the pools?)

Regards,
GtG

123 posted on 11/10/2006 9:34:39 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Col. Bob; All

Note to Ms.Pelosi.
Wars, conflicts, fights, disagreements, etc., are always lost or won.
There is always a winner or loser.
A war without a resolution is a war in still in progress.
Any of the conflicts, etc., NOT won, are merely awaiting the next phase.

A politician whose mindset considers that a war may not be won or lost by a participant shows with great clarity who the actual loser is.

The obvious loser in this instance is not the U.S.Military but once again the spineless political echelons; those Lucy Browns who cannot wait to snatch the footbal away from the honest, decent, self sacrificing and brave Charlie Browns.


124 posted on 11/10/2006 9:35:02 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("Life is harsh. It's perceived harshness is greater when you are stupid, and low on ammo".)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Ys I know ... but they will learn the hard way just like Chamberlain did


125 posted on 11/10/2006 9:43:38 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Al Qaeda recently released the "Martyrdom Videos" of some of the hijackers. In them, at least two of them list the US intervention (on their FReepin' belhalf!) in Kosovo on their list of "grievances".

Logic is not the strong suit for these morons.

But, then again, how smart were we to be intervening on the behalf of Islamic A$$hats in the heart of Europe?


126 posted on 11/10/2006 9:43:44 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Predictions may be unreliable.)
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To: ASA Vet
Interesting map. It sort of reproduces what the area looked like, 50,000,000 years ago or so.

The Tethys Ocean is what it was called, and it separated Africa and the big islands of India, Malaya, and Madagascar, which were all below the equator, from Eurasia, which was about where it is now.

As the Tethys closed, it formed by collision the Pyrenees, Alps, Dolomites, and Carpathians in the west, the mountains of Turkey, Iran, and Afghanistan in the middle, and the Himalayas, Pamirs, and the foldbelt mountains of Burma and Thailand in the east. About 50,000,000 years ago, India would be just above the equator and moving north. Arabia was part of Africa. Western Africa would be about where it is now, actually, since Tethys was never wide at its western end and western Africa didn't have to move far to close the gap, but the eastern part of Africa had to rotate counterclockwise some distance to close the central Tethys -- the Eastern Mediterranean is a relic of it, and Italy is actually part of the African block protruding to the north and colliding with the Alps. Meanwhile, the blocks that form SE Asia had to cross immense ocean distances to fetch up where they are now. Interesting.

127 posted on 11/10/2006 9:45:49 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Where are the dead that once slept undisturbed in their tombs?(walking back from the polls?)

I'm not saying there was not your typical structural Democrat vote fraud in these recent elections. But I will say that Democrat vote fraud is not why we lost. We lost because a heck of a lot of our countrymen went down to the polls and voted against us.

128 posted on 11/10/2006 9:46:03 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Predictions may be unreliable.)
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To: sonic109
They repeat what Perkey Katie told them on the TV news.

Katie Couric's nickname, that she got while a cheerleader at college in Virginia, was "Choo-Choo".

129 posted on 11/10/2006 9:51:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TAdams8591
It is going to be a LONG, LONG two years before we regain power in 2008!

Don't hold your breath. A talking-head political scientist on retainer to a Houston TV station (a Democrat, academic variety but politically active too) pointed out that these flips between parties tend to be metastable and last a good while.

Twelve years might be more like it.

130 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:41 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Col. Bob

VietNam worked really well for is, didn't it, you over-clipped poodle.

(Not you, Bob...that...that over-clipped poodle!)


131 posted on 11/10/2006 10:05:44 AM PST by bannie
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To: gridlock

...and a heck of a lot stayed home and didn't vote.

:-(


132 posted on 11/10/2006 10:07:03 AM PST by bannie
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To: gridlock
What's the source for Kosovo being a motivation? The hijackers died in the attacks--did they leave videos explaining their motives?

The first attempt to bring down the WTC was in 1993, before the US intervention in Kosovo. It stands to reason that other "grievances" were more important--US support for Israel, US support for conservative Arab monarchies, the US interventions in Lebanon, the fiasco in Somalia, etc., along with their general hatred of "infidels" and "Crusaders."

133 posted on 11/10/2006 10:12:36 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ByDesign
I've YET to hear the White House explain to us in terms that make any sense that "Reform" (ie. amnesty) will be beneficial to anyone except restaurant owners and contractors and businesses that hire illegals.

How about this?

The investment-banking community and their Old Money clients have decided to break the middle class on the wheel, juice them of their savings, and cast them aside. They want full reimbursement of excess wages paid, and the earnings and interest on same, plus nuisance fees and penalties for our impertinence, over the entire period from 1932 to present. How about that?

They want it all back, with interest -- all the VA money, all the Social Security money, all the insurance and other payments, all the employee-expense payments, all of it. Come to Daddy and take your whipping!

Of course, that's just a theory.

134 posted on 11/10/2006 10:19:36 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I chose two years, NOT because I don't understand the history of these flip-flops, but because we can't wait the usual twelve. The survival of the country can't afford it. We MUST defy history, be optimistic, put our heads, energy and money together, and focus upon regaining that power in TWO.

And frankly, I think the terorists are going to help us in this regard. They said today in a message to the whitehouse they are going to keep trying to blow up the Whiteouse until they succeed. As expected, this Democratic victory has and will continue to embolden them.

135 posted on 11/10/2006 10:20:36 AM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Col. Bob
Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"

And the first knives (of many) land in the backs of the troops.

The American electorate is spiteful, disloyal, treacherous, and wholly undeserving of the sacrifices made by our warriors.

Yo, America: next time al-Qaeda attacks, f*** off, you're going to be on your own.

136 posted on 11/10/2006 10:23:51 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Actually, I think most Democrats do believe it. But they will do anything to regain power. They ARE in denial, however. They don't realize if the terorists succeed, we will ALL lose, EVERYTHING.


137 posted on 11/10/2006 10:23:55 AM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Col. Bob
The Democrats do NOT believe in victory.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

138 posted on 11/10/2006 10:23:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: bannie
...and a heck of a lot stayed home and didn't vote.

Not what I've been seeing. GOP voters showed and voted.

The difference was a rise in turnout among indies and Dems, and they mostly voted Dem.

Anyone have another story?

139 posted on 11/10/2006 10:24:04 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TAdams8591
They said today in a message to the whitehouse they are going to keep trying to blow up the Whiteouse until they succeed.

I hadn't heard about that communique. When and how did it get to the WH?

140 posted on 11/10/2006 10:26:42 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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