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Detailed Chart: How Allen Lost
Right Side Redux ^ | 11/08/06 | Justin @ RSR

Posted on 11/09/2006 6:54:40 AM PST by RightSideRedux

Here's the deal. George Allen lost this race himself. It really wasn't part of the wave... but that didn't help.

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To: Alberta's Child
I predict that military votes for James Webb were a much bigger factor in this race than anyone realizes.

I saw that somewhere else also, Why would military personnel vote for a Rat when so many Rats have been calling our soldiers in Iraq murderers and rapists?

21 posted on 11/09/2006 8:03:35 AM PST by epow
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To: epow

Because for a lot of them the race had nothing to do with party politics. They were voting for a former Navy Secretary (from the Reagan administration, of all places) who could credibly claim that the war was fouled up (reinforcing their view, BTW) and there needed to be a change in direction.


22 posted on 11/09/2006 8:09:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: theDentist

What you posted applies to all losing Pubbies, they didn't fight back hard.


23 posted on 11/09/2006 8:15:23 AM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn?t really talk ? he was hitting on my wife)
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To: RightSideRedux

Even a monkey knows better than to swing beyond his reach.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 8:18:01 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: TommyDale

25 posted on 11/09/2006 8:19:46 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: CharlesWayneCT
At the moment, I don't see ANY republican in our state that would be a clear front-runner for Warner's seat, especially if Mark Warner runs as a democrat

There are plenty of good Republicans around to replace Warner--Jo Ann Davis, Virgil Goode, Tom Davis, Frank Wolf, Bob Goodlatte...or perhaps an outsider such as Frank Beamer.

26 posted on 11/09/2006 8:21:45 AM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: epow
I saw that somewhere else also, Why would military personnel vote for a Rat when so many Rats have been calling our soldiers in Iraq murderers and rapists?

Because the candidate in question was the holder of the Navy Cross, Silver Star and a couple of Purple Hearts and he wasn't one of those who did that--he currently has a son in the Marine Corps now fighting in Iraq.

27 posted on 11/09/2006 8:23:58 AM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: theDentist

A lot of times it's not the original incident (using the term 'Macaca') that gets you into trouble, it's how you handle the resulting controversy that gets you into trouble (see Richard Nixon).


28 posted on 11/09/2006 8:26:15 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TommyDale

Then perhaps he should have avoided HANDING them the macaca incident.


29 posted on 11/09/2006 8:28:02 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: SlowBoat407
This was like a mirror image of the Kerry statement...a phrase that was clearly meant to be insulting, but not exactly clear just how. In each case the most straightforward interpretation played up preconceptions of each candidate in the worst way.

I don't know what the hell Allen meant, but he came off like an arrogant bullying chucklehead, and it was clearly delivered as a juvenile epithet of some kind, lame on a school playground, and even more so in a senatorial campaign.

30 posted on 11/09/2006 8:30:51 AM PST by Monti Cello
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To: meandog

Tom Davis has definitely been "measuring for drapes" in that office.


31 posted on 11/09/2006 8:31:05 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: epow

The Navy Cross means a lot.


32 posted on 11/09/2006 8:39:12 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: chinche
Macaca: prop. n. A genus of macaques including the rhesus monkey (Macaca mulatta), much used in laboratory biomedical research. Formerly called Macacus.

When I first heard it, I though he mispronounced macaw (the bird). When I looked it up, I realized he'd just stepped into it up to his knee.

Pointing at a thin darkskinned guy calling him macaca (and while on camera) was abjectly STUPID. To then tell the media he didn't know the meaning was foolish. To then say he'd once heard a member of his staff use the term was just icing on the Webb's cake. You can say I'm overdoing it, but folks down here are still very sensitive about race.

And the reporterette wasn't asking about Macaca. She was asking him during a televised debate why "he never told anyone his mother was a Jew". You weren't appalled at such a question? I'm Catholic and I was astonished.

So go gripe to Allen, because HE gave them the ammo.

33 posted on 11/09/2006 8:39:26 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: TommyDale

As a senator, he should have smart enough to not let that happen.


34 posted on 11/09/2006 8:40:43 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

I agree, he lost me with his stupid statements. If he only would have thought before he spoke.


35 posted on 11/09/2006 8:45:12 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: epow
Why would military personnel vote for a Rat when so many Rats have been calling our soldiers in Iraq murderers and rapists?

Because military people dion't like phonies.

36 posted on 11/09/2006 8:53:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: dfwgator

absolutely!


37 posted on 11/09/2006 9:12:09 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: RightSideRedux

We already know the one (jibberish) word answer. I won't bother with writting it. Some people are just oafs.


38 posted on 11/09/2006 9:12:12 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: proudpapa

He chummed the waters. Yes it was overblown, however, he's the one who said it, not the WaCompost. He ought to have been a highroader in all respects from the get go. He allowed the opposition to tweak him and that's all she wrote. Not cool enough. Even if he had said "and there is the opposition" left it at that and simply pointed to the guy, it still would have been dumb.


39 posted on 11/09/2006 9:15:08 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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