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Rush Limbaugh: Why Republicans Lost
news.com.au ^ | 9 November 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 4:50:12 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: jude24

See my #360.


361 posted on 11/09/2006 1:51:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: ovrtaxt
Yeah without a doubt we now know that "New Tone" blows. Plus the "Big Tent" vote didn't show up either. So much for sucking up to the middle and left for votes.

We spent to much time on trying to make a better image and avoiding criticism instead of wielding power that was given to us to change things and prove that conservatism works best and earning the votes that are needed to keep America strong. *sigh* Now we are out of power what a waste. Hopefully we can learn from these mistakes and relearn from 1994 what it takes to win elections.
362 posted on 11/09/2006 3:14:28 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; jude24; blue-duncan

I don't believe that any true family man can be a pacifist. Mike Dukakis agreeing to let a thug take out Kitty might be what Kitty deserves, but husbands/fathers will kill to protect their own lives or those of their kids. That is a microcosm of Just War at the national level.

Therefore, the notion that 3000 dead is some outrageous number is belied by too many facts in America, OP. There are some 40000 killed annually on the highways, tens of thousands to various types of murder, and staggering thousands to heart disease, cancer, etc.

Where are the pickets at General Motors? Instead they get to sponsor the Super Bowl.

The Al-Qaeda Super Bowl brought to you by Bin Laden Engineering, Frito-Lay, and Coors Light.

There was all kinds of slaying going on in the bible and some of it wasn't especially principled. It was done for survival and this is about survival.

In case no one had noticed.


363 posted on 11/09/2006 3:27:17 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Well I don't put it past the Clintons to use the divide and conquer strategy and there are certainly no shortage of useful idiots for them to puppeteer.

It is a new angle though that the split would come from the left of the party. Maybe a strong fiscal conservative candidate could stop that from happening. What disaffection is there in the more liberal wing of the Republican party that could bring about enough angst for them to give there vote to a 3rd party candidate? Other than the bloating budget I can't think of anything.


364 posted on 11/09/2006 3:48:39 PM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: xzins
Wow, what a provocative post from you.

I hope you don't scare the congregation with such bold thinking. They might have trouble sleeping in church!

You raised some good points there. A lot of people don't care about all the other things that will kill you and will killing thousands every day, sometimes preventably.

But dead is still dead to the dead. They don't feel better to die in a car wreck than in a terror attack.

We could, for instance, almost eliminate traffic deaths if we imposed a national speed limit of 25mph highway, 10mph town. We'd save more people the first month than perished in 9/11. Who is crying for those people killed and maimed in actual preventable accidents that we know will occur? If the annual death toll has held at 40,000-42,000 per annum since around 1990, then we could easily save more people in a month next month and forever more than died in the 9/11 attack. So why don't we? And how do we claim to care so much for people if we don't? Are people who die in terrorist attacks worth so much more than those who die in generally preventable traffic accidents?

Much of this comes down to expectations about death. We may let thousands or millions die routinely from things we could prevent, if we had the will. But we object extremely if some outsider kills them instead. As we should. But this great concern for life is still kind of selective and not so consistent when you look closely.

It's a philosophical matter, I guess.
365 posted on 11/09/2006 3:49:28 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Republicanism lost last night. Republicanism, being a political party first, rather than an ideological movement, is what lost last night.”
366 posted on 11/09/2006 5:02:39 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird; Aussie Dasher
Santourm pissed off his base by backing pro-abortion, former democrat district attorney, Sen. Arlen Specter instead of the very, pro-life Congressman Toomey for US Senate. His base didn't forget the back stabbing. Santorum forgot that it was "the people" who put him in and he was responsible to "the people" not to Arlen Specter or the RINO establishment.
367 posted on 11/09/2006 9:59:27 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: TommyDale

spew!!!


in your face!


368 posted on 11/10/2006 3:51:56 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Coleus
Santourm pissed off his base by...

It's tempting to notch your belt and mark up a kill. But that was a tough state for Santorum to win in no matter what. And the Dims were hungry. And his opponent was a Casey. And there was a national anti-Bush tide.

I think Santorum was a great candidate, made few mistakes, unlike Allen or Burns. But sometimes, you just can't win.
369 posted on 11/10/2006 5:24:30 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Aussie Dasher
You are right. It wasn't so much Rick Sanatorium or individual Republicans that were being sent a message, it was the limp wristed Republican Party as whole that was targeted.

They ignored their base the Christian Conservatives and other conservatives that give Bush his big second term boost, which they immediately slapped in the face with the Arlen Specter and never stopped slapping them.

Pushing this nightmare amnesty bill and kissing Mexico's Fox boots.

Getting soldiers killed in Iraq fighting terrorists in Iraq while a couple of hundred miles from where they are dying he's pressuring Israel to give up land for state and to arm the same damn people who are killing our soldiers while throwing Ramadan parties in the White House for the "Region of Peace" as he calls them. This is why this so called war on terror especially in Iraq is dragging on.

He can't take his own advice on the terrorists, he can't decide if he is "for them or against them." Also he can't decide if he is President of Mexico or the U.S. or if he is President of all Americans including the middle class or If he is just president of the Chamber of Commerce for Big Business who his justice department is letting price fix and price gouge the American public out of a lot more than that lousy six hundred dollar tax cut.

Then take a look at the debt he's dumping on our children and grandchildren not to fight a war with, they keep shrinking our military, look where the money really goes, to line the pockets of big business who are having to add more pockets to hold it.

He's not only stood by why his friends doubled our cost to get to work, our utility bills and groceries but he's doubled what Washington spends since he got there and he has gotten much help from them so called conservative Republicans in both houses.

This is why they were turned out in the street. We didn't stay at home, real conservatives vote we just fired the jerks that refused to listen to those that elected them and those that just whined and said they couldn't do nothing about it.

Well if you can't fight and do your job, get out! We don't need you.

Here's a word to the dumb ass democrats. You didn't win anything.

Keep your useless liberal crap up and we'll take it right back from you! You better listen to those democrats who run as conservatives.

Here's a tip for both. You had better not pass that insane amnesty bill or we will see you in two years!

370 posted on 11/10/2006 6:43:24 AM PST by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: chasio649

LOL! Of course, I wasn't serious. Condi has not been effective in persuading the GOP faithful that she could be elected to any office yet.


371 posted on 11/10/2006 6:47:59 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

One word: arrogance. Voters don't like arrogance.


372 posted on 11/10/2006 7:39:52 AM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: TommyDale
Condi has not been effective in persuading the GOP faithful that she could be elected to any office yet.

Condi hasn't been successful at much of anything except getting appointed to offices she does a mediocre or poor job at.

No record of solid delivery. No election to office. Pro-choice, pro-affirmative action, has more shoes than Imelda Marcos.

If this is the hope of the right-wing, we're doomed.

A lot of this support for Condi comes down to her being a black woman. It's like hearing a bunch of libs, squishing over their ideal black candidate. For me, her sex and color are irrelevant. Whether she can perform and has conservative policy positions is the only thing I consider. The GOP nomination is not an affirmative action slot and we will not get the black vote by running a black candidate. The Dims have proven they rule the NAACP plantation. And so far, she's completely fails to measure up to a nomination unless your sole criteria is someone who is black and/or female and/or lesbian.
373 posted on 11/10/2006 8:03:25 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

I agree with you.


374 posted on 11/10/2006 8:04:43 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Liz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735184/posts?page=373#373

(Condi Rice) "...has more shoes than Imelda Marcos."

LOL!


375 posted on 11/10/2006 8:06:12 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: dirtboy
Blame the base

I'm not blaming myself. I'm part of the rational base who chooses to vote for a bad republican (or in Santorum's case - a good republican) over communism. Other "conservatives" would rather hurt themselves and everyone else by going with communism over "not perfect."

376 posted on 11/10/2006 10:18:14 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Coleus
Like I said, some "conservatives" are too whiny and try to force terrible on everyone when good (but flawed = Santorum) isn't perfect. Now we will have no more conservative Supreme Court justices, no border fence, high taxes, and an attempt at a govt. takeover of health care.
377 posted on 11/10/2006 10:21:35 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

don't blame the conservatives, if any sat out there were few of them. It's the unaffiliated voter who decides every election, not the registered democrat and not the registered republican, it's those who swing year to year. You should know that. And, as i stated, the elected officials lost due to their lousy voting record.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=20139 they let down an excited conservative base and many of them sat home. Santorum was to cockey when he backed arlen specter and not toomey. His eyes were on the #2 spot in the Senate and not with his constituents.


378 posted on 11/10/2006 1:14:52 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: TommyDale
Yeah, but Imelda has this on her lawn.


379 posted on 11/10/2006 1:46:34 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Liz

LOL! Big enough for those boats that Maureen Dowd calls feet!


380 posted on 11/10/2006 2:53:56 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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