[oceanview]

you know full well "what gives". the Dems want a fraud mechanism built in.

- motor voter, let's them know who is in the district based on DMV data.
- provisional ballots should be banned - you come to the polls on election day, and you aren't on the rolls, or have no voter ID confirmation, or no ID at all - you don't vote, period.
- tight controls on absentee ballots issued.

it's easy in reality, but you know full well why it doesn't happen. one party doesn't want it, and the other party (even when they have power) doesn't have the b*lls to force the issue.

FNC reporting now - Allen will concede tommorrow. Its over.

[DoughtyOne]

To be honest with you, the provisional ballot didn't register at first. I detest them. I don't like motor voter either.

To my way of thinking, election day should be Tuesday from 7:00a.m. to 8:00p.m. and that's the long and short of it. Frankly, absentee voting kindof bugs me too. I know a lot of people use them.

I want a person to show up, talk to another person, have it verified that they got a booklet by mail, and vote.

I had several conversations going, and for some reason the provisional ballot issue flew right over my head. Thanks for reminding me.

[Spaulding]

Sad to say, having watched many elections, that neither party has acted to insure that the election process is verifiable. In fact, while the old punch card machines were, at times, rigged, at least there was the potential to verify that there was fraud, if someone wanted to look. Now, in many states and within states, the voting mechanism is opaque, and absolutely without an audit trail. That is a fact. Whether there is some grand conspiracy controlling elections I don't know. I more suspect some distributed manipulation, and probably by both parties. But it is clear that many people know, many give lip service, but people who could drive laws to impose a rigorous count don't seem willing. I know that the FDA would never accept testing data with the lack of controls exhibited by our counting mechanism. Until our voting system is cleaned up the examinations of strategies, of principles, of integrity, are good sport for some, but of questionable relevance.