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Hotline: Republicans Will Pressure Allen... Soon
Hotline/National Journal ^ | November 8, 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 4:15:25 PM PST by RWR8189

Top Republicans in Washington will give Sen. George Allen a few days to take stock of his legal and political options before beginning to pressure him to concede to James Webb. Senior Republican officials and White House aides believe that Webb won the race. Several outside advisers to Allen want him to make the decision quickly; others in his campaign want to make sure that there's no chance a cache of new votes will turn up. One question: when will (will?) the AP call the race? [MARC AMBINDER]


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: againwiththisguy; allen; choke; cutandrunfreeperhere; georgeallen; nobility; whydoesthisguypost
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To: Ron in Acreage

The overseas military ballots did not require a postmark anyway. USPS does not cancel (and postmark) mail that's sent postage free.


121 posted on 11/08/2006 4:56:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: wireman
Thankyou wireman ~ and your comments on that "imaginary job" are certainly appreciated.

Just keep your eye on my performance why don't you ~ some people are born to be supervisors eh!

122 posted on 11/08/2006 4:57:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dogbyte12

According to MSNBC at 7pm EST, there are now only 4000 votes separating them. Fox News claimed about 2000 votes.


123 posted on 11/08/2006 4:57:52 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: Ron in Acreage

A 4000 difference in the totals is generated by only 2000 votes.


124 posted on 11/08/2006 5:00:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ron in Acreage
Fox News claimed about 2000 votes.

I saw that, too. If the absentees aren't counted yet and won't even be started until tomorrow, this race is still on until they are.

Concede? Why? Who won? No one knows yet.

125 posted on 11/08/2006 5:01:12 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: muawiyah

On ballots they do require a postmark. Navy ships have them postmarked right on board before they are flown home to prevent fraudulent ballots.


126 posted on 11/08/2006 5:01:42 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: Safetgiver

Overseas military can't show up.


127 posted on 11/08/2006 5:02:20 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: concerned about politics

exactly.


128 posted on 11/08/2006 5:03:34 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: RWR8189

For once, Pubbies, leave the fighter alone and let him fight. Geez, where's the backbone?


129 posted on 11/08/2006 5:04:34 PM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: muawiyah

Thank you for getting it. Some here are apparently cut and run RINOs.


130 posted on 11/08/2006 5:05:14 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Update: 5% of Virginia precincts have not reported!

Latest numbers at 7:30 PM show only 94.81 percent of precincts reporting.

Who knows how many votes that represents. But, if all precincts were the same size (a big if), it would represent 124,678 votes remain to be counted if the total vote of 2,493.567 represents 94.81%. Of course, these could all be small precincts. But, even so, 5% still not reporting. Is it conceivable this could change the outcome?

Not only absentees aren't counted. They're still counting regular votes.

131 posted on 11/08/2006 5:07:14 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: muawiyah
The overseas military ballots did not require a postmark anyway. USPS does not cancel (and postmark) mail that's sent postage free.

If you go a post office in person with a piece of mail, they will post mark it at the counter.

132 posted on 11/08/2006 5:07:39 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Apple Blossom

He lost his job. Virginia isn't exactly a Dem-controlled machine like MA or IL. It's over, and his presidential ambitions are extinguished now too.


133 posted on 11/08/2006 5:09:18 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Authoritarianism depends on lack of information. Totalitarianism depends on misinformation.)
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To: muawiyah
"from a guy who writes cockbooks for a living."

Jim Webb was at one time considered a great man in the GOP. Look what he's become now...
134 posted on 11/08/2006 5:10:20 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: RWR8189

>He lost fair and square. <

Maybe, maybe not. Those last few precincts were in very, very urban territory. Now, Virginia's vote history is pretty clean, but you don't mind if we complete our recount, do you?

What's the hurry, if everything is on the up and up?


135 posted on 11/08/2006 5:10:56 PM PST by Darnright (I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country. Sen John Edwards, 2/24/02)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Right, sure ~ the Domestic Mail Manual at the time of the 2000 election DID NOT REQUIRE POSTMARKS on any mail sent free of postage, to wit, absentee ballots sent by military personnel.

The Navy, for one, had not updated their DMM for nearly a decade and were working with old rules.

In fact, they didn't even have the regulatory updates that implemented Motor Voter (which occupies a nice chunk of the DMM if you kind of wondered who is in charge of it).

The State of Florida still relied on postmarks although federal law had changed to provide for free mailing for certain ballot materials (including military absentee ballots). Since Congress can pass and enforce laws concerning federal elections ~ to wit, President, VP, Senate, House ~ and they made those items free, other federal law, to wit, USPS Domestic Mail Manual, superceded the force and effect of the Florida law.

It was up to Florida to fix their law, not for the Navy to begin postmarking anything. If Navy is now postmarking stuff, good for them. Taking a quick look through the DMM I still don't see any changes that require postmarking postage free mail. Do you?

136 posted on 11/08/2006 5:11:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Kerry didn't bow out gracefully either. Bush had 120,000 vote margin in Ohio before Kerry decided he couldn't win it.

Allen should just accept he lost and get on with his life.


137 posted on 11/08/2006 5:11:18 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: dogbyte12

I read somewhere that the absentee ballots don't get counted until 2 days later, but after looking at the web site for the VA state board of elections, it doesn't look that way...they ARE counted the same day.

You answer brings up another question though. In 2004, I was in line before the polls opened and gave my name at the table at about 6:10am only to be told that I had already voted! You can imagine my surprise. I simply explained that wasn't possible since I couldn't have made it through the very long line twice.

Someone had to come over, I showed my voter registration card and driver's liscense again. I can't remember all the particulars. My question: Did my ballot become provisional at that point and was it possibly thrown out?


138 posted on 11/08/2006 5:11:45 PM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
They will postmark mail with postage affixed.

If you don't affix postage they won't postmark it.

139 posted on 11/08/2006 5:12:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: marajade

The point is Kerry conceded the next day, and didn't keep the thing in the courts. He could have been a lot worse about it than he was.


140 posted on 11/08/2006 5:13:37 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Authoritarianism depends on lack of information. Totalitarianism depends on misinformation.)
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