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1 posted on 11/07/2006 1:40:35 PM PST by Eurotwit
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Egyptian views on street assaults
Three young women in Cairo give their reactions to news that women were assaulted by crowds of young men in the city during Eid celebrations.

HANIN HANAFY, DEVELOPMENT WORKER, CAIRO, 28

I think chaos is spreading in Egypt.

There are the social and economic problems which mean that there's no work and people are too poor to get married.

Cairo Eid crowds: Bloggers say the picture shows a shop owner giving shelter to a woman who was assaulted
Blogs broke the story that has scandalised Egyptians (Picture: misrdigital.com)

There are problems with a lack of democracy. And also a lack of basic services such as decent education and transport.

You can't even walk safely along the street, there are so many road accidents.

It all points to one thing: a state which does not protect its people or provide them with the basics.

The targets for all these problems become the women - or Christians - who are the most vulnerable.

I can believe the police did nothing to help, because it has happened before.

In May last year women taking part in a political demonstration were sexually harassed in front of police.

Some incidents were encouraged by the officers, to frighten women away from demonstrations. This is the way police often handle security in public places.

But at the end of the day the police are not the problem; the issue is one of a state and society in collapse.

DINA ORIBY, INTERNATIONAL MUSLIM WOMEN'S NGO, CAIRO, 27

This is quite shocking. This incident was an attack on all our values. It went beyond everything we condemn.

In Egypt we don't approve of having intimate relationships in the street; of people kissing or holding hands.

So how come we have reached such an extreme of touching and bothering people?

I do think it reflects the state of corruption we live in.

I'm talking about a lack of good education and upbringing. I think the role of parenthood and Islamic preaching is missing.

We're concerned with how to pray and fast, but not with how to bring up good citizens.

Parents need to know how to punish and how to reward.

The state schools are deteriorating more and more. There are some good schools, but they only take the children of the wealthy.

I don't blame the police for not doing more. They are not paid enough and not appreciated properly. They are poor people in the first place, they are miserable and suffering too.

We have a problem in Egypt that our rights aren't protected anyway.

ELHAM FATHI, TRANSLATOR, CAIRO, 24

I was shocked when I read about this in the blogs. I nearly cried; I pictured myself having to face this kind of shameful experience.

I think there are many reasons young men are behaving like this. It shows how desperate they have become through poverty and unemployment. This means they have to wait longer before they can get married.

The media also has a role to play in this through the images it presents. Movies show heroes as drug addicts and outlaws.

Video clips and commercials use women's bodies and bad language to sell things.

I can believe that the police did nothing to help the women, because I have had experience of this myself.

Once, when I was being kerb-crawled by a man in a car I ran to a policeman for help. He said it was none of his business.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6107216.stm


2 posted on 11/07/2006 1:41:26 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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There can be no civilization with islam as a major part.
3 posted on 11/07/2006 1:43:08 PM PST by kinoxi
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I hope the brothers and fathers of the girls go find these yutes and give some family justice. No excuse for that behaivor.

Paris? Cairo? What's the difference?


4 posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:55 PM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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Isn't full facial nudity banned in most muslim countries?
5 posted on 11/07/2006 1:46:04 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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I thought this only happened in Europe...


7 posted on 11/07/2006 1:47:07 PM PST by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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Damn that Bush!


11 posted on 11/07/2006 1:50:15 PM PST by D_Idaho
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Reminds me of Central Park.


13 posted on 11/07/2006 1:51:25 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
15 posted on 11/07/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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Islam - such peace and tolerance! And what a way to end the "holy month of ramadan"
16 posted on 11/07/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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A statement by the ministry of the interior ... urged those who had anything to report to contact the police.

Preview of America without full force of the 2nd Amendment.

19 posted on 11/07/2006 1:55:08 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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I am not surprised by this.......there are many religions that sprung up or were tilted to rationalize the belittlement and ownership of women as property...

I am sure these nice young Muslim me will say the women asked for it by actually being in public.....

21 posted on 11/07/2006 1:56:28 PM PST by cherry
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Outfitting the young ladies with Kalashnikovs and multipe full magazines would go a long way toward restoring order ...


22 posted on 11/07/2006 1:57:26 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I think this is the original blog - in any case it has video and pictures of the incidents.

http://misrdigital.blogspirit.com/

I did not see any obvious nudity but there is violence and I cannot guarentee there is not some nudity in the videos as I did not watch them all - best to consider this site possible not work safe.

Here are two sample work safe pictures
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9720/ola1kp2.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3621/p1270077xt1.jpg


23 posted on 11/07/2006 1:57:26 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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"The state media ignored the incidents..."

Didn't happen if you didn't see it in the news...

26 posted on 11/07/2006 2:04:11 PM PST by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
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Wow! Sounds almost as bad as Paris!


27 posted on 11/07/2006 2:04:26 PM PST by Bon mots
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"the attackers targeted veiled as well as unveiled women"

I thought veiled women were protected by the modesty of their veils and were supposed to be safe. Isn't that what the Australian imam said? Sarc/off


28 posted on 11/07/2006 2:06:05 PM PST by kalee
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This is just unspeakably awful.

What a terrible religion and what a despicable, corrupt and utterly worthless Government Egypt has.

What Egypt and all unreformed Islamic countries need is an "Underground Railroad" of sorts, to allow women who want to escape this madness an opportunity to do so.  It would provide them with secret transit to neighboring countries that have some degree of sanity, and an ability to start a new life with a new identity, to shield them from the repercussions of their 'families'..

Just as Christians played a major role in the abolition of Slavery here in the USA, so they could also play a role in the abolition of  the slavery of women in the Muslim world.

Thanks to the internet, funding would such an organization would be easy.  It could be done via PayPal   or any other preexisting payment mechanism.

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29 posted on 11/07/2006 2:13:29 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Sexually frustrated? What'd they do-run out of farm animals?


30 posted on 11/07/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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The old bulls in a polygamous society have to get rid of the young males so the old bulls can have all the young females for themselves.


31 posted on 11/07/2006 2:22:54 PM PST by tkathy (The choice is clear: White hat people or white flag people.)
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It's not genetic (humanity is not that separated) but it does seem to be cultural. In other countries (not only the Western ones) people can ordinarily walk down the street without being attacked. This makes it seem as if the order for them to go with a male relative is credible. The Islamic world is in need of a huge cultural overhaul.
32 posted on 11/07/2006 2:28:35 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.freerepublic.com/~jedimasterpikachu/ The tables should be frozen in place, now.)
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