Scientists Seek Indian History Underwater[North America]

The Day ^ | Joe Wojtas

[kinoxi]

This is where archaeologists need to look for most future discoveries.

[padre35]

For the money, the better finds may be inland though.

good luck to Ballard and his team, but hundreds of miles of mud doesn't seem like beer and pizza material to me at least..

[kinoxi]

Yes, it is more expensive. The geologic records clearly indicate that underwater research is necessary though.

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[xcamel]

Damn, after 20 years somebody has listened to what I've been saying all along. Go back 11,000 years, and drop the sea level 300', and the answers will all be there.

But first, demand that the east coast tribes turn over for inspection all of the "anomaly's" that have been found off the coast by treasure hunters in the last 100 years.

These items have been "repatriated" to eastern tribes and hidden away from view because they don't fit with the "conventional wisdom" and in some cases prove the "first peoples" claims to be downright false. (at least one case of a number of spear and knife points found that were of a higher quality than anything found on land, and may date back 8000 years do to the depth, and depth of sediment in which they were found)

One place to look for sure is the submerged forest off the coast of Nantucket, and a couple similar locations off the coasts of the Florida/Georgia border.

[maine-iac7]

For just one example of many throughout the Americas:

"The Narragansett Indians are the descendants of the aboriginal people of the State of Rhode Island. Archaeological evidence and the oral history of the Narragansett People establish their existence in this region more than 30,000 years ago. This history transcends all written documentaries and is present upon the faces of rock formations and through oral history"

http://www.narragansett-tribe.org/history.htm
It also "transends" the folk who may have treked over the Bering St.
There are other scientific date for native habitation much older in the Americas.

It' quite possible some came over the Bering Straits but that doesn't mean there were no people here already.
The "professionals" have been stuck on stupid for so long, it's not likely they'll ever abandon the original theory.
It would seem that, since, for centuries the folk in the "Old World" didn't know that the "NEW" world existed, then it followed, in their reckoning, that the people they found here had to've gotten here, somehow, from the "Old" world. And once the experts have 'discovered' something, they cannot let go of it - no matter the evidence otherwise.

Funny thing is - the Indians knew that the "Old World" existed "across the sunrise sea" long before the first white men showed up.

[Vicomte13]

Chippewa (and Ottawa and Potawotomie - all three of the Three Fires People) oral history tells of living by the sea when terrible floods destroyed the rice marshes and drove the people inland. They had a sign from Gitchee Manitou that their wanderings would end and they would have their new home when they found the new great marshes of rice, which are, of course, the lakes and bogs around the Great Lakes, where they settled.

Their Algonquian cousins still in the East, the Narragansetts and Pequots, have the same story of the flood, which broke the freshwater lake and made it a bay of the sea (Long Island Sound was once a lake).

These are not really myths. They are called legends, but what they really are is oral history. And they are probably at least as accurate as the Torah of the Old Testament, which was also oral history for 1000 years or so until it was written down.

[taxesareforever]

This is a move to bring on underwater casinos.

[kinoxi]

The traces of cocaine and nicotine found in Egyptian tombs shows clearly to me that the current accepted assumptions are false. Major population centers are to this day still located near major waterways and/or the ocean. Humans have always been sea faring. The traces of much of the past are underwater.

[Vicomte13]

LOL!

[CholeraJoe]

GGG ping.

[alloysteel]

What are euphemistically called "native Americans" probably arrived in several different waves, and from different directions, than just across the one-time land bridge that stretched across the Bering Sea from northern Asia.

There is reason to believe that the Brazilian rain-forest natives are descendents of ocean-crossing ancestors of Hawaiians and New Zealand tribes, Melanesians, who were probably among the bravest of early explorers. The Vikings of Lief Ericson were probably not the first people who crossed from the continent of Europe to the eastern part of North America, just the ones for whom there is any recollection of having done so.

Mankind probably made a number of visits to North and South America even longer than 90 to 100 centuries ago, but for various reasons, the earlier colonizations did not take effect.

Or maybe they were relocated here as part of a breeding and stocking program by extraterrestrials, who shall soon be coming back to visit and check up on progress.

Maybe you did not realize you were just somebody's lab rat.

[maine-iac7]

Yep

[Sam Cree]

"When did Native Americans first arrive on the North American continent, and where did they settle?"

A little unintentional irony here, referring to them as Native Americans in the same sentence that posulates their arrival from somewhere else.

Interesting article nonetheless, and even more interesting comments so far.

[JimSEA]

Fascinating. There would seem to be come complex geology involved with the raise in sea level and the rebound of the northern landmass after the melting of the ice shelf. I hope they are successful.

[Young Werther]

The genome studies using mitochondrial DNA from umblical cords has been analyzed and geneological studies have shown that a common ancestor Great Great Grandma to the nth power or about 200,000 bc lived in Ethiopia or North East Africa.

That means that we're all African by descent!

In the final analysis we're all human by race and all else is just environmental modification. Peruvian Indians have well developed lungs for living at high altitudes. Negros are named for their skin adaptation and yellow, white and other adaptations have everyting to do with our planet's multiplicative environment!

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