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" Democrats are getting people to vote for moderates in order to put extremists in power."

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1 posted on 11/07/2006 5:55:32 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
The DUmocrats have to PAY thier volunteers and have to offer food, drugs, booze or sex to get their BASE out....that should tell everyone ALOT about this election.


2 posted on 11/07/2006 5:55:57 AM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: george76
That is why one must never vote for a Democrat, no matter how 'conservative' he seems.

He is part of a Party that is run by the Liberals.

Also, that is why Republicans need to stop whining about 'RINO's'.

To be the Majority Party you are going to have those in it who are not part of the mainstream of the Party.

The Democrats were the dominant Party by having a large conservative wing but pushed a liberal agenda.

The Republican Party will have a liberal wing, but will advance a conservative agenda.

What the Democrats learned was patience, and built the welfare state little by little.

It must be disassembled the same way.

3 posted on 11/07/2006 6:01:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: george76

Just voted.

Here in Indiana (and I here in Ohio too) you have to have a picture ID. I did. Then I had to sign my name and it had to match.


4 posted on 11/07/2006 6:03:13 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: george76
This is great. I have come to the conclusion that the RNC has monumentally blown this election. The MSM was determined to make this a "national" election, so the RNC should have joined the fight and blasted this message all over the coountry. "Think your Democrat candidate will change things in Washington? Think again. His/her first vote will be to make San Fran Nancy Pelosi Speaker, and bring back some of the nation's oldest and most extreme liberal politicans to power. Don't be fooled!"

I also wish the RNC had run some ads highlighting all the dirty campaigning by Democrats, such as the theft of Michael Steele's credit report, the hacking of Gov. Schwarzenegger's computer, the harrassment of Senator Allen's mother, etc.

7 posted on 11/07/2006 6:07:38 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (VOTE as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: george76
Democrats are more articulate

Yeah, Riiiiight


8 posted on 11/07/2006 6:09:39 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: george76
"...their base of supporters — welfare-state beneficiaries, the teachers’ unions, environmental zealots, the ACLU, and tort lawyers..."

Don't forget terrorists, morons, hanging chad artists, multiple voters, and the deceased...

9 posted on 11/07/2006 6:11:58 AM PST by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: Gordongekko909

Ping. Thomas Sowell column here.


11 posted on 11/07/2006 6:14:31 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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" Democrats are getting people to vote for moderates in order to put extremists in power." ~ george76

As always. The tactic works because a large part of the electorate is naive and uninformed.

Why Party Trumps Person. bttt [excerpted]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1733872/posts?page=123#123

A time-honored cliche heard every election year goes something like this: "I'm an independent thinker; I vote the person, not the party." This pronouncement is supposed to demonstrate open-mindedness and political sophistication on the part of the pronouncer. It's your vote, cast it any way you like - or not at all.

But idealism and naivete about the way our electoral process and system of government works shouldn't be mistaken for wisdom or savvy.

For better or worse, we have a two-party system. And party trumps person. Either a Republican or a Democrat is going to be elected... No one else has a chance.

..not the Libertarian candidate, nor the Communist, nor the Green. Minor party candidates are sometimes spoilers .. but they don't win.. elections. Ross Perot got 20 million popular votes in 1992, and exactly zero Electoral College votes.

In Europe's multiparty, parliamentary democracies, governing coalitions are formed after an election.

In our constitutional republic, the coalitions are formed first.

The Republican coalition includes, for the most part, middle- and upper-income taxpayers (but not leftist Hollywood millionaires and George Soros), individualists who prefer limited government, pro-market and pro-business forces, believers in American exceptionalism and a strong national defense, social-issues conservatives and supporters of traditional American values.

The Democratic coalition is an alliance of collectivists, labor unions (especially the teachers' unions), government workers, academics, plaintiffs-lawyers, lower- and middle-income net tax-receivers, most minorities, feminists, gays, enviros, and activists for various anti-capitalist, anti-business, anti-military, anti-gun, one-world causes.

...party trumps person because [regardless of the individual who wins an election] the coalition will be served.

.. After the individual members of a new Congress have been seated, a figurative nose count is taken and the party with the most noses wins. That victory carries with it control of all committee and subcommittee chairmanships, the locus of legislative power.

Now, let's say you're a registered Republican voter who clearly prefers the Republican philosophy of governance. And you're a good-natured, well-intentioned person who happens to like an individual Democrat, a Senate candidate, who's somewhat conservative. You decide to cross party lines and vote for him.

As it turns out, he wins, beating a Republican and giving the Democrats a one-vote majority, 51-49, in the U.S. Senate.

Congratulations! You just got Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Dianne Feinstein and Hillary Clinton as key committee chairs, and a guarantee that your Republican legislative agenda will be stymied.

That's the way the process works.

Does this mean that in a two-party system like ours it comes down to choosing between the lesser of two evils?

You bet it does.

That's not to say that either party is really "evil," that's just an expression.

If we had [300] million custom-tailored minor parties, everyone could find his perfect match.

But that's not practical.

You can be a purist and cast your vote symbolically with a boutique party, or be a player and settle for the least imperfect of the Republican or Democrat alternatives.

Your vote, your choice. ~ Mike Rosen http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728426/posts


17 posted on 11/07/2006 6:53:46 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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I think I COMMITTED VOTER FRAUD...or will. I voted absentee but my boss came in and said to us that if we want to leave an hour early to vote---to go ahead. I said OK. Am I going to hell?


18 posted on 11/07/2006 7:11:56 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: george76

Democrats pretending to be conservative is the only way they have been able to win since the '70s. The problem for them is that that they manage to fool the people and win a term, but when they return to their far left roots, they face the consequences come election time. Look at Clinton. He ran as a "moderate." But once in office, he turned hard left, raised taxes, tried to socialize healthcare and bam, his party got hit hard.

I think we will see the same thing happen here. The Blue Dogs may put the dems over the top, but the second Speaker Pelosi accepts her crown, she will start her far left agenda and, yep, try to socialize healthcare, raise taxes, cut off funding for the troops, impeach and endlessly investigate the President, and institute the fairness doctrine. Of course, I could be wrong. The blue dogs may reach accross the aisle and form a coalition. But I doubt it. They hate Bush that much and will not be able to help themselves.


21 posted on 11/07/2006 7:20:25 AM PST by FlipWilson
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"Getting people to vote for moderates, in order to put extremists in power, may be the newest and biggest voter fraud."

It just shows how extreme left the party has become, because the tactic is a specialty of the left and has been used by every set of Marxists who have come to power anywhere in the world - deny the meaning of their true identity, get stand-ins who know nothing to get elected as their willing stooges and then solidify the power they gained through non-democratic means.

Even now in Nicaragua, a Sandista is campaigning as a born-again Christian. Maybe Hillary will divorce bill and try that route in 2008.


29 posted on 11/07/2006 8:21:15 AM PST by Wuli
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Perhaps but those same moderates cannot go completely liberal if they want to keep their jobs.


35 posted on 11/07/2006 9:01:00 AM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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The rats still depend on their secret voters, who are having problems with the voting machines. Their fingers are falling off as they try to vote.


36 posted on 11/07/2006 9:13:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: george76

bump


39 posted on 11/07/2006 10:42:52 AM PST by VOA
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To: george76; 2ndreconmarine; AlaskaErik; Alexander Rubin; Alissa; arthurus; balrog666; ...
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40 posted on 11/07/2006 11:27:23 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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The sad thing is, the media has been helped this time by conservatives themselves who wish to send a message. They will get the message alright, but it won't be one they wanted.


48 posted on 11/07/2006 2:36:09 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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bttt


55 posted on 11/13/2006 2:58:04 PM PST by nopardons
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57 posted on 01/03/2007 5:33:09 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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