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1 posted on 11/06/2006 12:35:05 PM PST by A. Pole
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But what should concern us today even more is a mirror image of monopoly called "monopsony." Monopsony arises when a firm captures the ability to dictate price to its suppliers, because the suppliers have no real choice other than to deal with that buyer.

Monopsony bump

2 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:12 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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Isnt there supposed to be a barf alert on this or something?


3 posted on 11/06/2006 12:42:04 PM PST by spookadelic
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"most...economists accepted that freedom within the marketplace had to be limited, at least to some degree, by rules designed to ensure general economic and social outcomes"

False.

Economics presumes free and economically maximizing people to cause generally optimal economic and social outcomes WITHOUT rules designed to achieve that.

It is particularly the lack of rules that allows the outcomes.

Any rule-making by the author's socialist compatriots will ONLY INHIBIT OPTIMAL OUTCOMES.

4 posted on 11/06/2006 12:43:50 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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New America Foundation - Board of Directors:

Eric A. Benhamou Chairman, 3Com Corporation & Palm Inc.; Chairman and CEO, Benhamou Global Ventures, LLC

James Fallows Board Chairman, New America Foundation; National Correspondent, The Atlantic Monthly

Francis Fukuyama Professor of International Political Economy, Johns Hopkins University

Ted Halstead President & CEO, New America Foundation

Noosheen Hashemi President, HAND Foundation

Laurene Powell Jobs President of the Board, College Track

Kati Marton Author & Journalist

Walter Russell Mead Henry A. Kissinger Senior Fellow for U.S. Foreign Policy, Council on Foreign Relations

Lenny Mendonca Chairmain, McKinsey Global Institute

Steven Rattner Managing Principal, Quadrangle Group, LLC

Eric Schmidt Chairman & CEO, Google, Inc.

Bernard L. Schwartz Retired Chairman & CEO, Loral Space & Communications Ltd.

Anne-Marie Slaughter Dean, Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, Princeton University

Laura D'Andrea Tyson Dean, London Business School

Christine Todd Whitman President, Whitman Strategy Group

Daniel Yergin Chairman, Cambridge Energy Research Associates

Fareed Zakaria Editor, Newsweek International

10 posted on 11/06/2006 12:50:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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In systems where oligopolies rule unchecked by the state, competition itself is transformed from a free-for-all into a kind of private-property right, a license to the powerful to fence off entire marketplaces, there to pit supplier against supplier, community against community, and worker against worker, for their own private gain.

Like IBM?

Like GM?

Like ENRON?

Crock of SH*T alert!

12 posted on 11/06/2006 12:54:21 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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"Consider raw materials"

Let's not. Raw materials are virtually irrelevant in a knowledge based economy.

13 posted on 11/06/2006 12:55:19 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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There is an undeniable beauty to laissez-faire theory, with its promise that by struggling against one another, by grasping and elbowing and shouting and shoving, we create efficiency and satisfaction and progress for all.

This sounds like politicians, not the free market.

14 posted on 11/06/2006 12:59:04 PM PST by Logophile
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And so today we find ourselves in a world dominated by immense global oligopolies that every day further limit the flexibility of our economy and our personal freedom within it.

Yeah sure, entrepreneurship has died because no one can compete with these behemoths of efficiency. I suppose that's why 80% of all millionaires in this country are first generation rich.

Kraft has found itself with no other choice than to swallow the costs, and hence to tear itself to pieces

Is that why Altria's stock is performing so poorly? LOL!

Even in sneakers; Nike and Adidas split a 60-percent share of the global market

This can't be because they just happen to make better shoes than their competitors, could it? No. It's only because the Reagan administration and those evil conservatives who followed eviscerated the anti-trust laws that made our economy work so well during the Carter years. Never mind that I can find shoes from a half dozen other manufacturers in my local Sports Authority.

Most reports blame soaring prices of energy and raw materials, but in a truly free market Kraft could have pushed at least some of these higher costs on to the consumer.

Yeah, in a truly free market companies work to increase costs to consumers rather than reduce them by becoming more efficient.

The problem is that Wal-Mart, like other monopsonists, does not participate in the market so much as use its power to micromanage the market, carefully coordinating the actions of thousands of firms from a position above the market

Wal-Mart's logistics systems revolutionized the industry and forced suppliers to become more efficient. That's one reason consumers have more money in their pockets today and can afford to buy even more goods and services, thereby increasing their standard of living, and to invest in the markets and earn a piece of the pie. Since 1980, the number of working Americans invested in the markets has increased from 25% to almost 60%.

Like this article, I could go on and on and on....

17 posted on 11/06/2006 1:02:37 PM PST by Mase
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Those greedy Kulaks are at it again.
18 posted on 11/06/2006 1:04:51 PM PST by Mase
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Concentration of power is bad. It's bad when it's concentrated in the government. It's bad when it's concentrated in a single individual. It's bad when it's concentrated in a corporation.
22 posted on 11/06/2006 1:15:24 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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Mr. Lynn ought to read a couple of Nobel Prize Winning Economists before spouting further:

Free to Choose - Milton Friedman

The Road to Serfdom - Friederich Hayek


23 posted on 11/06/2006 1:15:51 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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Even with careful planning, most would find the sudden surrender of 20 percent or more of their revenue to be extremely disruptive, if not suicidal.

If this revenue is unprofitable, they should surrender it. Unless they're as dumb as Willie Green. LOL!

24 posted on 11/06/2006 1:16:23 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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One recent study of how such power plays out within an entire system shows that a small retailer can expect to pay upward of 10 percent more than a powerful firm for the same basket of items.

So WalMart is evil for making the poor suppliers give them a lower price and the supplier is evil for not giving the same low price to the smaller retailers. Wow, whole lot of evil going on.

36 posted on 11/06/2006 1:41:02 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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Breaking the Chains?


38 posted on 11/06/2006 1:41:55 PM PST by RockinRight (Maintaining a Republican majority is MORE IMPORTANT than your temper tantrum.)
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"There is an undeniable beauty to laissez-faire theory, with its promise that by struggling against one another, by grasping and elbowing and shouting and shoving, we create efficiency and satisfaction and progress for all. "

The very first sentence of this article is hookum. Laissez faire never "promised" anything, much less efficiency, satisfaction and/or progress.

It is simply the least INefficient, the MOST satisfactory, and the economic model most LIKELY to lead to "progress". Although I daresay the author(s) of this piece might define "progress" far differently than any poster on this site.

The whole thing is based on the first sentence being a strawman. The article is worthless as an analytical exercise.


68 posted on 11/06/2006 3:23:07 PM PST by Monkey King
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NB: Kraft, which the author mentions as a corporate predator, is not an independent force in the food business. Although it is technically an independent company (the second-largest food and beverage company in the world, in fact), Kraft Foods is actually owned and controlled (88.1% ) by the Altria Group — the conglomerate formerly Kknown as Phillip Morris.

Still, great post. Too bad no one here wants to hear the message behind it.

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NATIONALIST ECONOMICS: WHY "EVERYDAY LOW PRICES" ARE BAD FOR AMERICA

Q. Why pay more for goods made domestically?
A. National security.

1. History demonstrates that any nation with a weak manufacturing base is at the mercy of those with stronger manufacturing bases should war come.

2. War always comes.

3. Therefore, in order to avoid being at the mercy of other nations, the United States should maintain a strong manufacturing base, by whatever means are necessary.

QED


91 posted on 11/06/2006 5:31:52 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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But what should concern us today even more is a mirror image of monopoly called "monopsony." Monopsony arises when a firm captures the ability to dictate price to its suppliers, because the suppliers have no real choice other than to deal with that buyer.

Yes, much like in the movie, "Demolition Man," where all restaurants were Taco Bell, it's really a terrible thing that the only store in the country where products are sold is Walmart! When I need to buy clothes, the only place I can buy them is at Walmart. Same with oil and tires for my car. And the food that I eat. And the office supplies I use. And... Wait! What's that I see off in the distance? Is that a different store? Hey, that's not a Walmart! It's a Target! Actually, it's a "Super Target!" And look! There's a Payless Shoe Source next to it! Does that mean I don't have to buy my shoes at Walmart?

More Walmart bashing. If manufacturers want to sell their product at the world's largest retailer, then they're going to have to bend to the will of the 800 pound gorilla. But nobody's forcing any manufacturer to sell to Walmart. There are other stores they can sell to. They'll just have to realize that if they want the visibility and and distribution that Walmart has, they'll have to play by their rules. But nobody's forcing them to do so.

Mark

98 posted on 11/06/2006 6:08:53 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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In the absence of legal controls you could expect the company that changes the oil in your car to, for example, possibly dump waste oil into the water supply. Regulations are necessary.

The role of governmend should be analogous to that of a referee in a sporting event. The problem with our society today is that we're letting the referee pick sides and play in the game.

Fix that problem and you've fixed A LOT.

103 posted on 11/07/2006 3:13:14 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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