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How did GOP right get it so wrong? (Dick Armey editorial)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 11-4-06 | Dick Armey

Posted on 11/05/2006 10:30:35 AM PST by Hydroshock

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To: Hydroshock

I don't know the numbers but my guess, and I am pretty confident of this, is that such expenditures you mention would not amount to diddly on the scale you posted.

Maybe someone else does. But like I wrote this is a distraction and I will not be distracted more on it right now.

Nothing wrong with a critical analysis---later.


41 posted on 11/05/2006 10:53:19 AM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
Conventional wisdom holds that non-defense discretionary spending has been cut to make room for defense spending increases. Conventional wisdom is wrong. According to OMB Historical Table 8.2, non-defense discretionary outlays – adjusted for inflation –surged by 34 percent between 1999 and 2005. That is the largest six-year expansion since the 1970s.Heritage Foundation Report.
42 posted on 11/05/2006 10:54:02 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Cricket24

It's sad to see what has become of Dick Armey.
I used to live in his district and voted for him.
Certainly there are problems to fix within the GOP however he should be helping to steer the party not criticize it ad nauseum. TERM LIMITS for all elected officials.


43 posted on 11/05/2006 10:54:07 AM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: AntiGuv
Ok, I gotcha...

...But Banning Gay Marriages is a HUGE issue for Evangelical Christians like myself.

44 posted on 11/05/2006 11:00:03 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

No.....thats not what I said or mean.

I am talking about weak-knee'd republicans looking for an excuse to give up. big DICK just gave it to 'em.


45 posted on 11/05/2006 11:00:56 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Hydroshock
He's right. The idea that Republicans could form a "permanent majority" by big government spending has been the party's undoing. But it's not the sort of thing he should say until after the election.

Also, what happened was in accord with the logic of politics. We might like to think that elected officials should go in, fix things and then be willing to go home, but once they get a taste of power, they'll do almost anything to keep it.

Armey was majority leader from 1995 to 2003. He saw what was happening in its early stages. What did he do to stop it?

46 posted on 11/05/2006 11:01:40 AM PST by x
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To: Cricket24
I agree with you BUT he is right to some extent. I only wish he had kept his BIG mouth SHUT until AFTER the election.

agreed, this was neither the time or his place.

47 posted on 11/05/2006 11:02:15 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Hydroshock

I believe Dick Armey is only half right. Republican voters expected the republ;ican majority to act like a majority, instead they folded up like a cheap pair of boxer drawers.


48 posted on 11/05/2006 11:02:36 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Hydroshock

Dick Armey is dead on, as usual.


49 posted on 11/05/2006 11:03:36 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Love God, question religeon.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

tracking ping


50 posted on 11/05/2006 11:03:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Hydroshock

Maybe the GOP got it wrong by making you a leader, Dick.


51 posted on 11/05/2006 11:06:34 AM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: HitmanLV


man you are so right on target. I have told both my Congressman and the good Senator the same thing face to face. They just nodded and said thanks. Now Gibbons is in a fight that should of been a cake walk. They need to listen to us!!!!(more).


52 posted on 11/05/2006 11:07:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Fury
"The likely Republican losses in this week's elections will not constitute a repudiation of the conservative legacy that drove the Reagan presidency and created the Contract With America. To the contrary, it would represent a rejection of big government conservatism"

I don't believe President Reagan would have written such an article on the eve of an election.

Neither do I. But I do think he would agree with the statement. I understand the spending on the WOT. I don't understand the earmarks and the other spending increases.

53 posted on 11/05/2006 11:08:49 AM PST by centexan (Welcome back 4th ID - Go 1st Cav - happy hunting)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Gibbons will win. I don't think many people bought the cocktail waitress's story, and the video doesn't support her claim at all. Nevada will be a fine state for the GOP on election day - GOP GOV, GOP Senator, and both GOP House seats should remain comfortably GOP.


54 posted on 11/05/2006 11:09:42 AM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Hydroshock
Gee, sounds rather familiar to a phrase someone here on FR has been posting for years:

Republicans Have Nothing To Fear Except Themselves

55 posted on 11/05/2006 11:17:02 AM PST by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Vaquero

I understand exactly what you are typing. My point is that it's not deterring you and it's a stretch for you to think that it will deter rational thinking republican from voting.

I am no fan of the Rino's that we have in congress now and their ineptitude. But, I'll support them because they are better than the socialists that have hijacked the Democratic party.


56 posted on 11/05/2006 11:19:36 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: MNJohnnie

What is scarey about that list, is that anyone who considered themselves to be a solid conservative, could post it without a myriad of disclaimers.

This isn't the time or the place to be discusing it. Still, it is quite painful to see it in print.

What I want from conservative political leaders is precisely what I want from leftist political leaders. I want the truth. I do not want slanted claims. I do not want to see what could pass for big government leftist pipe dreams to be heralded as something 'our guy did' that we should be really happy about.

I expect a conservative leader to do many of the things listed. I do not expect those things to be able to be explained away in part. I do not expect to be put in the position of reminding folks of what was never addressed, or after six years still needs to be addressed.

I think Army was wrong to address this now. I think it is wrong to trot out lists that are as shakey as this one.

When election day comes, voters should be able to look back and realize what has been done in the name of conservatism. They shouldn't be able to look back and realize their wish list was barely touched.

This party wants my support on Tuesday. They will get it. If they should be fortunate enough to prevail, they better pull their heads out. We may have only two more years to get some things done. It's an absolute travesty that after six years some things have not been addressed. And now they say they need more time. You know what, I agree. I've voted for Republicans my whole life, but I have never found it more difficult to do so, than in the last four years.

I grew up in the show-me state. During the next two years, this party better show-me a lot more than they did in the last six years.

I expect them to do the good things they have done. Duh! I do not expect to see the bad that they have done, and the bad that they have never addressed.


57 posted on 11/05/2006 11:22:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: AntiGuv
He's saying that the GOP went from its grand vision of 1994 (e.g., passing welfare reform and limited government - in short, the Contract With America) to little more than frivolous sideshows (e.g., banning horsemeat and same-sex marriage).

A lot of people on this thread are pissed because of it, but no one denies the truth of it.

58 posted on 11/05/2006 11:22:43 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: raybbr

Good chart, whats a link?


59 posted on 11/05/2006 11:24:17 AM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: All

All I can say is Dick is...well..a DICK


60 posted on 11/05/2006 11:26:16 AM PST by LegalEagle61 (You have 2 choices vote republican or whine about how bad the country is when the liberals take over)
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