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BUS DRIVER FIRED FOR GIVING BUSH "THE FINGER" FILES GRIEVANCE
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 2 November 2006 | Gene Johnson

Posted on 11/02/2006 12:14:21 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

SEATTLE — A school bus driver fired after she reportedly made an obscene gesture at President Bush has filed a union grievance in an attempt to get her job back. The 43-year-old driver, whose name was not released, was driving middle school children back to school after a zoo visit on June 16 when the president and Republican Rep. Dave Reichert drove slowly by in a motorcade. From the bus, the children waved; with the windows down in their car, Bush and Reichert waved back.

That's when the driver gave the president the finger, according to Reichert and Issaquah superintendent Janet Barry. "The congressman hadn't seen it, but the president turned to him and said, 'That one's not a fan,' " said Reichert spokeswoman Kimberly Cadena. Reichert later called Barry to tell her about the incident, but the bus driver had already been fired. District officials learned about the incident after the driver boasted to colleagues about it, Cadena said.

District spokeswoman Sara Niegowski said the driver has filed a wrongful termination grievance through the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The union did not return calls seeking comment. Niegowski said the firing was not politically motivated. "The bus driver was not terminated for making an obscene gesture at the president. The bus driver was terminated for making an obscene gesture in view of the students," Niegowski said. "That's not the role modeling we need for our students."


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KEYWORDS: busdriver; bush; grievance; thefinger
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Giving the finger on a school bus should be grounds for dismissal, no matter who it's directed at.


61 posted on 11/02/2006 1:08:34 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: jude24

Ok, so you did but were fired for expressing your "free speach"?


62 posted on 11/02/2006 1:09:56 PM PST by Beagle8U (Getting the FReepers to bring down the Dixie Chix is hard work......G.W. Bush)
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To: jude24; xzins; blue-duncan
Of course they said they fired her because it was obscene. They aren't stupid enough to say "We fired you because you flipped off the President."

I would have fired her for flipping off Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro.

She has no business flipping off anyone while she is driving children around in a bus with the name of the School District emblazoned on the side.

I do hope you don't use that kind of logic on your bar exam. The facts are that she was fired for flipping off someone. You have no facts to justify your conclusion that it was a ruse and the she was fired because it was the president. I suspect that nobody who was involved in that firing voted for Bush and that everyone involved is a NEA democrat. But the fact is that the bus driver's BEHAVIOR was unacceptable, and no matter who that gesture was pointed at, she deserved to be fired.

63 posted on 11/02/2006 1:10:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Beagle8U
Ok, so you did but were fired for expressing your "free speach"?

Nope.

64 posted on 11/02/2006 1:10:49 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: jude24
The bus driver is a municipal employee and the taxpayers pay her salary. As such, she's required to be apolitical while on the job (shut up and drive).

As a purported adult, she shouldn't be engaging in this behavior while a busful of children is in her charge.

If she wants to run screaming through the streets waving an "Impeach Bush" sign over her head on her own time, that's fine.

65 posted on 11/02/2006 1:11:19 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: P-Marlowe
You have no facts to justify your conclusion that it was a ruse and the she was fired because it was the president.

Credibility is an issue of fact for a jury.

66 posted on 11/02/2006 1:11:38 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: jude24
Credibility is an issue of fact for a jury.

Where is the evidence that the district is lying?

67 posted on 11/02/2006 1:12:56 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: 007girl

My goodness! What was this from!


68 posted on 11/02/2006 1:13:46 PM PST by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: jude24

"Credibility is an issue of fact for a jury."

Just stop it. You're bleeding profusely.


69 posted on 11/02/2006 1:14:02 PM PST by mutley ("I read the Koran, and didn't find anything of value in it.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The 43-year-old driver, whose name was not released,

The pig can feed at the public trough yet her name can not be released?

I say if she is proud enough to sing her name on the back of a public paycheck, everything she accomplishes during the day should be public knowledge.

If you do not want the public to know what you did ... don't work for the public.

70 posted on 11/02/2006 1:14:41 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Where do I file my grievance against grievances?


71 posted on 11/02/2006 1:14:54 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: jude24

You do not have the right to say "F- you" in front of my babies.


72 posted on 11/02/2006 1:15:25 PM PST by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: P-Marlowe
Where is the evidence that the district is lying?

Discovery hasn't occurred yet.

73 posted on 11/02/2006 1:16:17 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: mutley

BDS requires all rational thought to be suppressed!


74 posted on 11/02/2006 1:18:15 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Excellence
You do not have the right to say "F- you" in front of my babies.

Won't somebody please think of the children???!!!

75 posted on 11/02/2006 1:21:14 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: jude24
Of course they said they fired her because it was obscene

So what if she "articulates" by grabbing her crotch, that's o.k.? Can she "articulate" by simulating oral sex with a bananna? Can she "articulate" by screaming "cxckSxcker" at someone she hates, politically?

No. She's got a job, and part of that job means that she obeys a code of conduct. And if one of my employees flips off Howard Dean himself, while she's on the clock, I fire her.
76 posted on 11/02/2006 1:21:14 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: jude24
Well, unless you own your own company you would get fired for that. In the public or private sector.

You have your freedom of speech and anyone that you work for has the right to fire you.

If you worked for me I would fire you for being obtuse, just because I can.
77 posted on 11/02/2006 1:21:59 PM PST by Beagle8U (Getting the FReepers to bring down the Dixie Chix is hard work......G.W. Bush)
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To: horse_doc

"And if one of my employees flips off Howard Dean himself, while she's on the clock, I fire her."

But it'd be worth it.


78 posted on 11/02/2006 1:23:35 PM PST by mutley ("I read the Koran, and didn't find anything of value in it.")
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To: jude24
So much for free speech.

Say you are publishing a book about birds, the person you hire to write about birds writes about fish because she finds them more interesting than birds.

I suppose you would then have articles about fish in your bird book as to not offend the "Free Speech" rights of the gal you hired.

The driver was hired to drive the bus and be courteous towards the public, not to be out there representing the bus company, flipping anyone off. Just as your writer was hired to write about birds.

The driver can flip anyone one off on his own time, just as your writer can sell his fish stories to anyone else.

His Free Speech rights, to write about fish, do not compel you to buy his fish stories, as far as I can tell, why do you think otherwise?

79 posted on 11/02/2006 1:29:01 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Excellence
I think he was responding to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Hillary/Bill, Jack Murtha, Barbara Streisand, The Dixie Chicks, Al Gore, Hugo Chavez, M. Ahmadinejad, Pink, my sister-in-law....just kidding! heheheee I'm sure it's photo shopped!
80 posted on 11/02/2006 1:35:01 PM PST by 007girl
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