Posted on 11/01/2006 11:38:10 AM PST by Rodm
These are impressive numbers that don't ever consider other crops they might use in the future.
This I hope is the real deal and we don't find out that they didn't count the cost of energy in the final figure or something like that.
I got your meaning. don't worry my friend, we understand each other.
Ethanol (soy gas) is nothing like gasoline, whereas biodiesel is nerly the same as regular diesel, and is better for engines in some ways, but provides very slightly less energy per gallon and can't be used in as low a temp range.
every acre devoted to the growth of fuel is an acre tqaken away from the growth of food. Less food means higher food prices.
the fuel is a by product, the main product is 7-3-7 fertlizer.
Hybrids DO NOT get the EPA stated mileage and do not do significanlty better than comparable traditional gas engined cars. The VW diesels have gotten 50 MPG for a long time, though.
well call em skeptical, but I will nto stand in the way of anybody using it if they want to. i just will not meself.
how many acres are kept out of production or how many would be changed from another less profitable crop to soy beans. Corn, cotton, sugar, etc....... Let the market place decide.
Don't forget about how farmers are paid to NOT plant crops to artificially keep crop pries high, and farmers in business.
Even better.
Those were the days where we didn't understand the necesity of crop rotation, nitrogen fixing, etc, whereas we do nowadays, so that logic is faulty. Farmers produce 2-3 times per acre over what they could years ago.
A lot of what this company is hyping makes me think "scam".
1. "Reported to made 5 gallons of fuel per bushel of soy beans. Cost less than 50 cents a gallon."
Soybeans are trading at around $6.50-$7.00 per bushel right now, so 5 gallons per bushel is a lot more than 50 cents per gallon unless there is quite the market for byproducts.
2. From the USSEC website
"U.S. Sustainable Energy further announced that it has partnered with Multicast Media Technologies, Inc. ("Multicast"), a leading provider of Internet broadcast products and services, and Akamai Technologies, Inc., the leading global service provider for accelerating content and business processes online. Through this partnership, USSEC will leverage Multicast's comprehensive digital media communication solution that includes live satellite-to-Internet broadcasting and the global reach, reliability and security of Akamai's online content delivery network."
If you are an energy business and are able to produce fuels so cheaply, why the need to partner with a communication company (why is it so necessary to hype the product? maybe to prop up the stock prices?)
I believe I'll pass on investing in USSEC, maybe those who do so will be laughing at me when they retire on their profits, but I think time will show this to be more hype than substance.
If we continue at this rate... we might actually use all of this science we have to produce an affordable and environmentally friendly energy alternative in the next 5 to 10 years.
It's about dang time... I guess there actually was a silver lining to $3.00 a gallon gas prices!
I guess we'll know in about 10 weeks when they are suppose to have a first 24,000 gallon per day unit on-line.
you are both correct, and it is a pleasure to have this discussion with you folks.
I've been hearing this for decades. perhaps someday someone will perfect the sterling engine or some such. But if I had a gallon of gas for every time I heard the next greatest, most environmentally friendly, cheapest fuel alternative that came across my desk I'd retire tomorrow.
so since I've heard teh cry of "wolf" for so long, it'll take much more convincing to do to get me on board.
sorry, I just been here before.
A bushel is a volume measure equal roughly to 9.3 gallons; this company claims to turn 5 gallons of that into burnable fuel oil (~60 pounds weight).
They also claim to have a market for the other 25-28 pounds of material as fertilizer, etc.
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