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Euthanasia? How Can a Secular Society Claim Anyone is “Better Off Dead”?
Life Site News ^ | 10/31/06 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 10/31/2006 4:14:57 PM PST by wagglebee

OTTAWA, Ontario, October 31, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The growing push for euthanasia and assisted suicide in Canada threatens the foundations of the country, said B.C. palliative care expert Dr. Margaret Cottle, replacing genuine compassion with an easy reliance on “rights.”

“The concept of medical killing is predicated on the assumption that death is better,” Dr. Cottle pointed out in a presentation to Members of Parliament in Ottawa last Thursday. “Yet there is not one shred of evidence that people are better off dead. Show me the evidence that the person is better off dead, that the quality of life is going to be better.”

“Even people who don’t believe in heaven or an afterlife claim death brings peace--well, the onus is on those seeking change to prove the benefits of the change. How can a secular society claim that people are ‘better off dead‘?”

In fact, Dr. Cottle cited recent quality-of-life studies that found people in palliative care  often reported greater satisfaction with their quality of life than people in full health at the height of their careers.

“People in palliative care experience less gap between goals and reality in life quality because their values become simpler and more attainable.”

“Autonomy rights” of the patient trump all other considerations in end-of-life decision-making in the medical community, Dr. Cottle said, with patients taking a disproportionate role of authority in the process. Assisted suicide is defended on the grounds that, without it, the human right of autonomy would be denied.

“Autonomy is an illusion,” Dr. Cottle said. “We are connected to one another. We have lots of restrictions on our autonomy that we consider perfectly reasonable for civilized society.”

When applied to end-of-life decisions, radical patient autonomy carries with it a burden of requirement on those who will be forced to carry out the patient’s wishes. Patient “autonomy” that seeks assisted suicide demands the participation of a physician.

While human rights are important and necessary, Dr. Cottle stated, the deeper issue surrounding end-of-life questions is that of society’s ability and willingness to care for those in need.

“It’s about our personal suffering and how we deal with it. Rights come in when unconditional love fails--we need them, but we need to admit that rights are a failure of love, a stop-gap measure.”

“Altruism and compassion are the core elements of Canada. If those values are going to retain any significance, we need to support them. The very fabric of our society is at stake.”

“There are lessons for us to learn as a culture, What are we going to feel about ourselves, what is going to happen to our identity if we fail to protect the most vulnerable and weakest in our society?”

The euthanasia information session for Ottawa MP’s was a joint effort by the Institute for Marriage and Family Canada, the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition and Action Life Ottawa.

Dr. Cottle joined euthanasia opponent Bobby Schindler in a presentation urging Canadian politicians to support programs that offer quality assistance to the disabled and their families, and to oppose legalized assisted suicide and euthanasia.

See related LifeSiteNews coverage:

Canadian MP Again Seeks to Legalize Assisted Suicide
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06080101.html

100 Doctors and Lawyers Warn Canada's Parliament Against Assisted Suicide Bill
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/oct/05102604.html

Canada's Euthanasia Prevention Coalition Warns Assisted Suicide Legalization Looming
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05070603.html


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eugenics; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: wagglebee

That the Left actually has people fighting for the right to kill their unborn, kill the sick and old, and kill themselves is astounding.


21 posted on 10/31/2006 4:48:46 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: RKBA Democrat

I'd love to say that you are right about abortion dropping off, but while it does seem to be "trending downward," there are still well over 1 MILLION abortions performed each year in the United States.

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html


22 posted on 10/31/2006 4:52:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
...So, you believe in Heaven, yet you also believe in playing God?...

Sure. You'd rather I play Satan?

23 posted on 10/31/2006 4:55:38 PM PST by FReepaholic (If ignorance ain't bliss, I don't know what is.)
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To: wagglebee
I don't feel like I can play God with humans, but what if I'm ever asked if I think it's time to pull the plug on someone?
That would be trying to guess what they would want, and I'd hate to be in that position.

OTOH, if I was the sick person, and IF I DECIDED that I had had enough suffering, why should anyone be able to stop me?

Thanks for your efforts Wag.
You're a good FReeper.

:-)

24 posted on 10/31/2006 4:56:42 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I totally believe in a person's right to have an advanced medical directive specified which life support systems can be stopped and under what circumstances (I will NEVER be convinced that a feeding tube is life support as they have been in use for several hundred years). However, termination of life support is completely different than taking pro-active measures to kill someone.


25 posted on 10/31/2006 5:00:18 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Euthanasia? How Can a Secular Society Claim Anyone is “Better Off Dead”?

Easy. If there is no soul, then life is just a series of positive and negative stimuli. When the negative stimuli far outweight the positive stimuli, and there is no hope of that changing, then the human body and its sensory mechanisms are better off dead.

Not that I believe that, just pointing out that Euthanasia is in fact very logical if there is no soul.

26 posted on 10/31/2006 5:05:54 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: wagglebee
Show me the evidence that the person is better off dead, that the quality of life is going to be better.”

Hey, Doc, just maybe the patient and his relatives are better off because you are no longer able to suck money out of him/them...

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Medical profession's definition of "euthanasia": "wallet killer"...

27 posted on 10/31/2006 5:43:19 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: wagglebee
I totally believe in a person's right to have an advanced medical directive specified which life support systems can be stopped and under what circumstances (I will NEVER be convinced that a feeding tube is life support as they have been in use for several hundred years). However, termination of life support is completely different than taking pro-active measures to kill someone.

I'm trying to formulate my reply. Give me a min.

It's nice to discuss this.

28 posted on 10/31/2006 5:47:08 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: wagglebee
Here's my reply.
:-)

God gave us dominion over animals, he did not grant us dominion over humans.

What are life saving measures, if not us trying to have dominion over life?
We owe it to ourselves to do everything within reason to help save the life of a fellow human, but we do not have the right to force them to suffer.
IMHO.
29 posted on 10/31/2006 5:53:55 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Lizavetta
That the Left actually has people fighting for the right to kill their unborn, kill the sick and old, and kill themselves is astounding.

Very astute and succinct. Oh, and lest we forget, they're also fighting for the rights of terrorists who would kill everyone else on the planet....except them, of course.

No wonder it's the Party of Treason and Death!

30 posted on 10/31/2006 6:14:17 PM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: wagglebee

The pro-euthanasia crowd thinks that OTHER PEOPLE are better off dead....


31 posted on 10/31/2006 6:17:27 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: wagglebee

"I'd love to say that you are right about abortion dropping off, but while it does seem to be "trending downward," there are still well over 1 MILLION abortions performed each year in the United States"

I think we can agree that one is too many, and the steeper the decline, the better. But the trend is downward, and has been for several years now.

The chances of ending abortion through political means appear quite small, so we're fortunate that cultural factors seem to be lowering the rate.


32 posted on 10/31/2006 6:26:56 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: wagglebee
“The concept of medical killing is predicated on the assumption that death is better,” Dr. Cottle pointed out in a presentation to Members of Parliament in Ottawa last Thursday. “Yet there is not one shred of evidence that people are better off dead. Show me the evidence that the person is better off dead, that the quality of life is going to be better.”

“Even people who don’t believe in heaven or an afterlife claim death brings peace--well, the onus is on those seeking change to prove the benefits of the change. How can a secular society claim that people are ‘better off dead‘?”

Welcome to Utopia, Dr. Cottle! Black is white, up is down, Death is life...

After all, if one's primary value is equality, what could be more certain than the equality of death?

If one's primary value is peace, what could be more peaceful than the eternal peace of the grave?

33 posted on 10/31/2006 7:24:57 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: wagglebee
"How Can a Secular Society Claim Anyone is “Better Off Dead”?"


34 posted on 10/31/2006 8:08:26 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


35 posted on 11/01/2006 2:10:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: wagglebee
“The concept of medical killing is predicated on the assumption that death is better,” Dr. Cottle pointed out in a presentation to Members of Parliament in Ottawa last Thursday. “Yet there is not one shred of evidence that people are better off dead. Show me the evidence that the person is better off dead, that the quality of life is going to be better.”

If the pro-death crowd was honest, they would say that they think they (the ones left alive) will be better off from killing the sick and weak.

36 posted on 11/01/2006 6:43:00 AM PST by Grig
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