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CA: Schwarzenegger comes out against Proposition 90 (Eminent Domain)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 10/31/2006 3:22:17 PM PST by calcowgirl

With a week to go before the election, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has taken a position in opposition to his own Republican party and a host of conservative groups like the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association by coming out against Prop. 90 -- the eminent domain initiative that opponents say represents a regulatory nightmare which could tie up many infrastructure improvements in a legal chokehold.

"Rebuilding our schools, roads, levees and housing is a critical priority of my administration," writes Schwarzenegger in an op-ed piece released today. "Unfortunately, Proposition 90 also includes language that would make rebuilding our system or public infrastructure prohibitively expensive. When agencies must acquire property to build vital public works projects, current law provides for just compensation based on fair market value of the property. Proposition 90 makes changes to this system that would require inflated payments, at taxpayer expenses."

"For these reasons, while I can sympathize with the intent of those who support Prop 90, I have no choice but to oppose this initiative," the governor writes.

The following is the complete text of the letter:

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On November 7, California voters will have an opportunity to vote on Proposition 90. I have carefully analyzed this measure, however, and have come to the conclusion I cannot support Prop 90. Let me tell you why.

The proponents of Prop 90 added provisions that I believe will undermine basic government laws that protect our home values, safeguard our environment and allow for the building of safe roads, schools and other essential infrastructure. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; eminentdomain; kelo; prop90; rino; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 10/31/2006 3:22:18 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Arnold is yet again wrong, yet right.. The Governor can take comfort in that once Prop 90 passes, he can finally start unloading the property that the state has taken over the years, at reasonable prices, to the previous owners.


2 posted on 10/31/2006 3:27:00 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: FairOpinion; doodlelady; 68 grunt; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; ...

Sigh...


3 posted on 10/31/2006 3:27:04 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Who is surprised?

But that's more ammo for when we purge him and his ilk from our state party next year.


4 posted on 10/31/2006 3:28:06 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: calcowgirl

Vote "Yes" on Aaaahnold. Vote "Yes" on 90.


5 posted on 10/31/2006 3:28:21 PM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: kingu
The Governor can take comfort in that once Prop 90 passes, he can finally start unloading the property that the state has taken over the years, at reasonable prices, to the previous owners.

I don't understand what you mean. Prop 90 has no retroactivy so how would that affect property currently owned by the state?

6 posted on 10/31/2006 3:28:28 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: kingu
Arnold is yet again wrong, yet right

For me, he and McCain are one and the same. I never know when they're gonna do the absolute right thing, or when they're gonna go leftie on us.

7 posted on 10/31/2006 3:28:47 PM PST by The Blitherer (We all know the truth now, and it is incontrovertible: Karl Rove is one magnificent bastard! - D. B.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
But that's more ammo for when we purge him and his ilk from our state party next year.

We are? I don't particularly like Arnold, but don't you think he's the best shot we have at a "conservative" governor in CA?

8 posted on 10/31/2006 3:30:11 PM PST by The Blitherer (We all know the truth now, and it is incontrovertible: Karl Rove is one magnificent bastard! - D. B.)
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To: calcowgirl

It's of course not surprising he took a position opposite conservative groups because he's not a conservative.


9 posted on 10/31/2006 3:30:24 PM PST by CardShark
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To: calcowgirl
Ahh, sorry, I though that it counted for future sales of seized property decided as being surplus and not used for the original project. A shame that wasn't included, if that is the case.
10 posted on 10/31/2006 3:31:05 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: calcowgirl

How about no fancy laws.

Just one that says "Eminent Domain shall not be used for the benefit of private parties"

Simple. Neat. Special interests see something good, they sabotage it by asking for too much.

In Florida IIRC the amendment up for vote sounds great until you read that the legislature can override it for specific projects with 60% of the vote. IOW, a trick to raise more dough from developers and related lobbyists.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 3:31:46 PM PST by Shermy
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To: The Blitherer
For me, he and McCain are one and the same. I never know when they're gonna do the absolute right thing, or when they're gonna go leftie on us.

Take a poll, you'll likely get the right answer most of the time. Least he holds back the legislature, if only slightly. Anyone who votes for a Democrat to go to Sacramento should automatically be assigned an extra thousand dollars in tax for stupidity.
12 posted on 10/31/2006 3:32:51 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: kingu
I am not enamored of the "regulatory taking" clause, as it suggests a new method for land speculators to guarantee themselves a profit: if they discover that their speculation was wrong, they can use a front group to lobby for a change in zoning or other regulation affecting the value of their land, whereupon the government (a) restricts the availablity of land through regulatory taking and (b) is forced to give the backers of that regulatory taking a big payoff.

In other words, you still have the problem, but you've also guaranteed a steady flow of government monies to certain well-connected parties' pockets...

13 posted on 10/31/2006 3:33:25 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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But that's more ammo for when we purge him and his ilk from our state party next year.

Because 30% of the vote is entirely too much.

14 posted on 10/31/2006 3:34:40 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: calcowgirl

Well, there you go. If anyone had any doubts about Arnie this should settle it. RINO!


15 posted on 10/31/2006 3:39:07 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: The Blitherer
I don't particularly like Arnold, but don't you think he's the best shot we have at a "conservative" governor in CA?

No.

I'm a Republican because I think the values of the Democrat Party are BAD for California. Candidates that support those values are BAD for California. He's not the "best" anything.

16 posted on 10/31/2006 3:39:58 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: calcowgirl
Well... isn't that speeeeecial.


17 posted on 10/31/2006 3:40:51 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Defeatism doesn't win elections)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I'm a Republican because I think the values of the Democrat Party are BAD for California. Candidates that support those values are BAD for California. He's not the "best" anything.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. I'm only saying that because California is such a bastion of liberalism, I just don't think its possible to get anyone into the Governers office who's more conservative than Arnold. I'm not happy about it, but I can't see any true conservative getting elected here.

18 posted on 10/31/2006 3:44:16 PM PST by The Blitherer (We all know the truth now, and it is incontrovertible: Karl Rove is one magnificent bastard! - D. B.)
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To: The Blitherer

I have a serious question: is Proposition 90 a litmus test for conservatism, or might there be a reasonable conservative argument against it?


19 posted on 10/31/2006 3:45:11 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: calcowgirl
Arnie said:
I have carefully analyzed this measure. . .

In Oregon, where a similar measure was passed in 2004, more than 2,600 claims have been filed seeking more than $6 billion in compensation. Many of these claims are unfounded and from speculators simply looking to cash in on the public's dime.

He obviously didn't study it very hard. Oregon's measure allowed existing environmental rules and government restrictions on the use of land to be overturned. California's does NOT.

20 posted on 10/31/2006 3:48:38 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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