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Teacher Suspended: Showed Kids Abortion Film
cbs4.com ^ | Oct 27, 2006 | Evan Bacon

Posted on 10/30/2006 5:46:15 AM PST by paltz

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To: paltz

I suppose we were better off when the school was teaching how to put a condom on a cucumber...


61 posted on 10/30/2006 7:03:05 AM PST by Gritty (Unable to protect children from our selfish self-absorption, we protect them from falls-VanDerLeun)
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To: pax_et_bonum

I bet many would change their minds if they saw what I saw.


62 posted on 10/30/2006 7:04:18 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: Jane Austen

Exactly.


63 posted on 10/30/2006 7:05:09 AM PST by Hildy (Some are born to sweet delight; some are born to endless night.)
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To: rintense

Yes...And you'd think the people that wave them on the sidewalk would. They usually have four or five kids, themselves.

Exposing sensitive little kids to abortion in such a brutal fashion is not helping the Pro-Life cause any. The people that NEED to understand those images probably wouldn't be affected by them.


64 posted on 10/30/2006 7:06:56 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: rintense
I agree, which is why, for all these decades, I've been so infuriated that the pro-abortion movement has succeeded in keeping this unknown.

I heard of "The Silent Scream" at least twenty years ago.

(I've not seen it. Don't need to as this issue is upsetting enough for me as it is.)

65 posted on 10/30/2006 7:07:50 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: paltz

hmmmm.....maybe the age group was a little young, although the kids ARE getting pregnant at 13 & 14 now instead of the 'ole 16 & 17.

There are plenty of teachers out there pushing the pro-abort message and smearing pro-lifers without getting suspended.

Did this guy show anything that wasn't true?

The item about a baby reaching out for the doctor was not filmed during an abortion - it was filmed during a life-saving surgery while the baby was still in the womb. That child is still alive, and I would think such footage wouldn't be "disturbing" at all.

Are these kids being shown footage of the realities of war in other classes? Are they being shown disturbing images from other historical events?

Give him back his job - have a legitimate debate on what is appropriate for what age.
It sounds like this should be no problem for a high school class.


66 posted on 10/30/2006 7:08:16 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: CondorFlight
But get them out of there quick if someone even hints that maybe abortion is murdering a small child. . .

A graphic film is more than a slight hint.

A few blocks from my house, there is a man who faithfully sets up his display of 12-15 giant, full-color images of mutilated fetuses, several times a week. Every time I drive past him, I am grateful I don't have small children in the car.

I would have complained had one of my kids been shown the film at 10 or 11. I would also question the judgement of any teacher who would show such a film to children, and especially without getting the parent's and school administration's permission.

67 posted on 10/30/2006 7:15:34 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: Scotswife
Give him back his job - have a legitimate debate on what is appropriate for what age. It sounds like this should be no problem for a high school class.

I just am floored by the hypocracy shown on this thread. The guy was an ART teacher. He had NO business showing this...it's his agenda. If it were anything else but abortion you guys would not only be calling for his resignation, you'd be calling for criminal charges. When it comes to abortion with you guys, all common sense and propriety go out the window.

68 posted on 10/30/2006 7:16:08 AM PST by Hildy (Some are born to sweet delight; some are born to endless night.)
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To: LongElegantLegs; rintense
Ever try to soothe the nightmares of a kid who saw the poster-sized, dismembered baby photos at a Pro-Life rally?

Ever spend hours on end trying to convince a woman not to commit suicide after the enormity of her actions settles in months or years after the fact? It's a little more serious than a childhood nightmare.

69 posted on 10/30/2006 7:16:34 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I had a friend in college who had an abortion, and was so torn up with grief, she got pregnant right away to make up for the baby she killed. She was an emotional wreck.


70 posted on 10/30/2006 7:19:32 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: rintense

It nearly always hits women eventually, often after they have a child.


71 posted on 10/30/2006 7:21:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: paltz
Abortion = Wholesale murder of future voters and the resultant need for a massive importation of legal and illegal aliens.. by democrats and republicans..

NOTE: Was this a civics class?...

72 posted on 10/30/2006 7:25:40 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: wagglebee

If more people knew how the odds are against you to conceive a child each month, they'd appreciate the true miracle that life is. Something made so complex is God-given, and should NOT be taken for granted.


73 posted on 10/30/2006 7:30:43 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: hosepipe

an art class


74 posted on 10/30/2006 7:31:20 AM PST by Artemis Webb (All Truth is God's Truth...regardless of the source.)
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To: Gritty

No, that's terribly wrong, putting condoms on cucumbers. It sets up all the girls for nothing but disappointment, later in life.


75 posted on 10/30/2006 7:32:45 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: rwfromkansas
I do think the teacher should get permission from the parents first.

And that's my whole point.

76 posted on 10/30/2006 7:33:35 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: paltz

Abortion isn't about sex or porn. It's about violence and murder.

My own sons, ages 12 and 9, have seen these sorts of photos from a very young age. The little guy was maybe 2 years old when he went to his first March for Life in Washington, DC.

That anyone would procure the murder of her unborn baby is beyond them. They know what abortion is - violence and murder against innocent human beings.

I like it that way.


77 posted on 10/30/2006 7:33:44 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: wagglebee
A woman walking into an abortion clinic to have her baby sucked from her womb is making an adult choice, one that her dear feminist sisters fought long and hard for. Information on abortion, fetal development and the potential complications and depression is available at the push of a button. "I didn't know" just doesn't seem like a good excuse anymore.
78 posted on 10/30/2006 7:35:21 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: sitetest
My own sons, ages 12 and 9, have seen these sorts of photos from a very young age. The little guy was maybe 2 years old when he went to his first March for Life in Washington, DC.

That's all well and good, but you don't get the right to impose your methods on other people's young children without parental permission. I have been pro life since I was a young child, and it isn't because someone forced me to watch a abortion video. Not everything that happens in real life is appropriate to show to young children- there are other ways to get through to them without stealing their innocence.

79 posted on 10/30/2006 7:39:51 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: LongElegantLegs

I totally disagree with saying that abortion is an "adult choice" when a huge percentage of women having abortion are under 18. This is a class of 10 and 11 year olds, within a few years, every girl in this class will have had her menses and could become pregnant. Will they be making "adult decisions."

You're right, there is plenty of information out there about the horrors of abortion. But all these girls generally hear in school is how it's just a choice, they are never told any of the negatives. Then when it becomes real to them, they go to a center that has NEVER suggested anything other than abortion.


80 posted on 10/30/2006 7:41:25 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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