1 posted on
10/29/2006 10:11:03 PM PST by
Lorianne
To: Lorianne
2 posted on
10/29/2006 10:17:39 PM PST by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: Lorianne
'yeah, all that 'freedom' is great as long as those f'ing conservatives aren't free to poison the cathedrals of higher learning or government'
If only hypocrisy were an actual disease and these people could die of their own intellectual corruption.
3 posted on
10/29/2006 10:51:57 PM PST by
bpjam
(Not Voting in '06? Turn in your VRWC card at exit quietly)
To: Lorianne
Debating with Liberals is sometimes an exercise in futility. The first thing they do when they know you are a Conservative is to attack you personally. Most of them abhor Christians and immediately start their attack based on their preconceived notion that all Conservatives are Evangelists. They have been dumbfounded when I've informed them in the past that I was Atheist (Later Agnostic-Now Christian) and then find themselves unable to hold their own on the issues. I have been involved in online debates with these people and have noticed that when they lose the argument at hand, they find something else to attack their opponent on, simply because of their preconceptions.
For example, on Youtube today, I was involved in a debate concerning stem-cell research and Michael J. Fox with a group of Liberals. I handily defeated all of them in this argument by turning their personal attacks on me against them. They made too many assumptions about me based on their preconceived stereotypes of conservatives. They really think they "know" their opponent based on their extremely narrow world-view. (It's funny to watch them accuse me of being narrow-minded when it's more true about them.)
I've been called a "Nazi", "Stupid", "Ignorant", "Redneck", "Simple-Minded", "Brain-Dead" and various other epithets by people who had less knowledge of events, history and Politics than myself. They really do think they are right and their minds cannot be changed, but at the same time I ALWAYS QUESTION AND DEFEND MY OWN VIEWS, which mostly just leads to refining them, as opposed to changing them. But at least my mind remains open and can be changed, which is more than I can say for them.
The funniest thing in a debate is when they change the subject and try to attack you on other issues. I merely inform them that they have conceded the debate by changing the subject and if I have an opinion on that subject it will be on the appropriate forum if it interests me. I tell them that "I'm not running for President." Shuts them up pretty quick.
Once in awhile you can find an honest Liberal who won't personally attack you. This is very rare, though.
4 posted on
10/29/2006 10:57:05 PM PST by
lmr
(The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
To: Lorianne
"Far from being a site of free thinking and free exchange of ideas, the university seems to have become a laboratory for new forms of censorship and conformism."
The Free Speech movement at UC Bezerkeley in the early 60s was a marxist-socialist driven one.
Ironic that the left has turned hypocritical. An educated person would examine ideas of the left and right, and decide for himself.
A victim of propoganda would accept what was shoved down his throat; in this case by institutions of higher learning-propoganda mills.
My puruit was comparing the economies of post-war East and West Germany. It made me an economic conservative. Based on facts.
To: Lorianne
You tend to lionize the opposition by giving them credit for being more effective than they actually are.
Let's pull the plug on these outbursst.
8 posted on
10/29/2006 11:47:55 PM PST by
CBart95
To: Lorianne; All
The most biased, stereotyping, bigoted people I have ever had the misfortune to run across are the Loyal Opposition... on the Left.
I largely have quit bothering to even talk to them outside of trival matters.
I simply got tired of being insulted all the time.
1)- they tell me I'm a "homophobe" because I oppose the societal disintegration homosexual marriage will cause- yet oddly, I get alone famously with my gay neighbors.
2)- they tell me I'm a racist, for pointing out bad habits and behaviour- yet oddly, my next-closest neighbors are a black family. Don't have any problems with them, but then, they're good people.
3)- they tell me I'm intolerant because I find the more militant versions of "the alleged religion of peace" to be, well, kind of scary, and I really don't want my women bagged in burkhas...
I could go on, but two other things the Left are masters of, and which I find right annoying, are:
1-) Projection, and
2-) Displacement.
The first has been discussed many times ( "I'm not the racist [ despite quotas, affirmative action, etc. ] you guys are..." ) so let me address the second.
You are presented with two versions of reality- the real one, where the world is a savage, merciless place, and a lot of people wish us ill... or the fantasy version, where everything is George Bush's fault...
Now that first version is really, really scary... hard to deal with, so you take all those negative feelings it invokes, and displace them over to one bad guy- who, incidentally, is a lot easier to hate, since he really can't hurt you. Unlike the "real" reality version.
See how much more comfortable that is?
12 posted on
10/30/2006 1:51:27 AM PST by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: Lorianne
Don't ever expect me to be tolerant of anti-American ideas. If we had stuck to the principals of the Republic we were founded to be we wouldn't have all the grief we endure today. It really is that simple.
13 posted on
10/30/2006 3:00:12 AM PST by
Frwy
(Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
To: Lorianne
My biggest concern is the new generation of authoritarians.
14 posted on
10/30/2006 3:12:29 AM PST by
listenhillary
(Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
To: Lorianne
Remember,those who claim to be the most tolerant are usually the ones that show the most intolerance
15 posted on
10/30/2006 3:24:18 AM PST by
screaming eagle2
(No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
To: Lorianne
Liberal universities have become the Madrassas of Stalinist thought.
18 posted on
10/30/2006 4:15:06 AM PST by
saganite
(Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
19 posted on
10/30/2006 4:35:58 AM PST by
Aetius
To: Lorianne
The author of the piece appears to be Brendan O'Neill and not Wendy Kaminer.
20 posted on
10/30/2006 4:50:43 AM PST by
decimon
To: scan59; scan58
23 posted on
10/30/2006 5:58:01 AM PST by
scan58
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