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They paved over the dead at Ground Zero...
Take Back the Memorial.org ^ | October 28, 2006 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 10/29/2006 4:35:46 AM PST by Sergeant Tim

...and a few decided to just leave them there.

No matter what you have heard to the contrary, more than five years after 9/11, the Deutsche Bank building has not been fully searched. New York City's official spokespeople are playing word games and many in the media are their echo chambers. When the South Tower fell, massive amounts of debris fell on and into that building, leaving huge beams precariously hanging out over Cedar Street and a twenty floor gouge in the building's north face. When the first big crane approached nearby West and Liberty, the ground shook beneath it. They smartly backed off and engineers soon determined that the bathtub's walls adjacent West and Liberty Streets were unstable. If they had collapsed, the Hudson River might have flooded the Pit and much of Manhattan's rail lines, power grid, and water and sewer systems.

Ground Zero viewed 9 12 2001 from West and Liberty Streets

That did not stop the FDNY. They climbed inside the Deutsche Bank, crawled where they could, and conducted what all that I have spoken with described as a hands-on, visual inspection. While they were accustomed to moving within dangerous places, environmental tests showed extreme levels of toxins. On September 17, 2001, one day after the photo below was taken, they were ordered out. They cursed aloud, swore oaths to return, and repositioned.

the north facade of the Deutsche Bank building September 16 2001

When it was safer, heavy cranes pulled the steel from the building's facade and removed what they could reach from the outside. The building was draped with a heavy, transparent shroud to contain the materials inside and someone hung the sign in the photograph below. It was still there one year after 9/11.

We will never forget them. We will never forget you

The sign is gone now but not the sentiment. We will never forget the grunts of Ground Zero, those magnificent men and women who endured so much, knocked down that Pile, left no stone in the Pit unturned, and brought so many out to us. Their loyalty and love cost many of them their physical health; it cost none of them their honor.

Mayor Bloomberg has been conned. He has been persuaded to place in charge of the renewed search the same agencies that paved over the dead and callously left them there for five years.

Yet the grunts of Ground Zero have not forgotten the fallen or what they saw down there. If you were there and, like a growing list of witnesses, can provide information that will help bring the fallen from that place, please email me, Tim Sumner, at admin@911familiesforamerica.org

I also know the meaning of the word 'honor' and whether we talk on or off the record will be entirely up to you.

Author's note: Please pass the word about this article, bookmark Take Back the Memorial.org and check in there often yourself for updates. -- Tim Sumner, a.k.a. Sergeant Tim


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; bloomberg; groundzero; humanremains; victimculture
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1 posted on 10/29/2006 4:35:47 AM PST by Sergeant Tim
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To: Repub4bush; rightinthemiddle; andyk; tiredoflaundry; sono; RasterMaster; markedmannerf; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/29/2006 4:37:43 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
It's unrealistic for anyone to expect that every piece of tissue,every bone fragment,every wallet will be accounted for at Ground Zero.

Sad....but unrealistic.

3 posted on 10/29/2006 4:43:27 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Sergeant Tim
Mayor Bloomberg has been conned. He has been persuaded to place in charge of the renewed search the same agencies that paved over the dead and callously left them there for five years.

I'm supportive of doing everything possible to recover the remains of those who died at the WTC.

4 posted on 10/29/2006 4:44:25 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Sergeant Tim
They (Developers) been paving over the dead for years in my hometown. Apparently moving graves cuts into developers profits so they officials look the other way.
5 posted on 10/29/2006 4:46:50 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Me too.


6 posted on 10/29/2006 4:53:22 AM PST by Alex1977
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To: AZRepublican
Shades of "Poltergeist"?
7 posted on 10/29/2006 4:54:43 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: Gay State Conservative
We are not expecting "every piece..." Initially, they had no choice but to pave over the dead yet senior site officials knew exactly what they paved over. In the name of progress -- to be ahead of schedule and under budget -- they deliberately did not go back. They just left paved over fill taken from Ground Zero unchecked for remains and declared the recovery operation over. That is not acceptable in the America I live in.
8 posted on 10/29/2006 4:56:23 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

I'm sorry but I just can't get to worked up about "remains" that are over 5 years old.

What should we do, never ever get back with our lives after people die? I lost a wife who was the greatest person in the world, but life does go on or you can sit in your puddles of pity until you join the ranks or pick yourself up, get on with your life and look for the good in the friends and family remaining.


9 posted on 10/29/2006 4:57:11 AM PST by Chuck54 ( "It's NOT the economy stupid; that's great. It's the media".)
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To: Alex1977

In addition to recovering all the remains, I'd like to see a HUGE memorial to the defenseless souls who were murdered by the muslim barbarians. It should be a statement to their savagery for all time, especially when the muslim hordes take over Europe and start trying to deny what they did on 9/11.


10 posted on 10/29/2006 4:57:46 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Chuck54

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1727940/posts?page=8#8


11 posted on 10/29/2006 4:58:27 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Bathtub? Is this a babblefish translation from another language?

...and engineers soon determined that the bathtub's walls...

12 posted on 10/29/2006 5:03:46 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Where have you been? That's what they called the concrete tub-shaped foundation the building was built on.


13 posted on 10/29/2006 5:05:39 AM PST by Clara Lou (.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

The short version of information about the World Trade Center's bathtub can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bathtub


14 posted on 10/29/2006 5:06:55 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I think a tall, graceful obelisk would be perfect as a monument. Then, get on with life--that's the greatest testament. The Muslim terrorists thought that they would cripple the US. Look at us. They lost, and showed themselves for the barbarians that they are. May they rot.


15 posted on 10/29/2006 5:09:07 AM PST by Clara Lou (.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

"It's unrealistic for anyone to expect that every piece of tissue,every bone fragment,every wallet will be accounted for at Ground Zero."

That's why it should be left as a permanent memorial garden instead of building commercial buildings on it again. Imagine someone coming in and building a skyscraper at Arlington.


16 posted on 10/29/2006 5:11:27 AM PST by gregwest
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To: Sergeant Tim

Europe farms and paves over ww1 and napoleonic dead every day. It is a fact of life and death. Where do you draw the line at an arm bone ...or a tooth?


17 posted on 10/29/2006 5:14:34 AM PST by omega4179 (Cheese eating surrender monkeys)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

A huge memorial, including a museum accurately portraying the "savagery for all time," is why we fought (successfully) to remove the blame-America-first-and-always self-proclaimed International Freedom Center from Ground Zero.


18 posted on 10/29/2006 5:18:34 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
The dead are part of ground zero, what is left there is not irretrievable, but should remain , if relatives can be convinced that the more honorable and respectable thing toward their missing loved ones would be to leave them there, with the names of all who were not found etched into the base of the new construction, as a monument to them forever.
19 posted on 10/29/2006 5:20:26 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Look for a Elephantastic party win ,so painful the dims charge us with abusing jackasses.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
What was callously and deliberately left as Ground Zero is far from "unretrievable." Please read this to verify that statement.
20 posted on 10/29/2006 5:26:42 AM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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