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To: WOSG

Actually, here in Illinois, there was a race between a Democrat (Glen Poshard) and a Republican (George Ryan). I voted for the Republican.

The Democrat was pro-NRA (and conceal carry) and pro-death penalty. The Republican had said he was pro-death penalty but basically mum on that and other things. The "Republican" won, with my help.

When George Ryan was rumored to be going to prison for a license-for-money scandal, he let over a 100 people off death row, garnering liberal love and a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize.

He's been found guilty and faces many years in prison

We have never had conceal-carry. Glen Poshard was thought to be a decent man.

The Democrat who is now our governor is also looking at a corruption scandal. Our Republican challenger (the former chairman of the Republican party) Judy Barr Topinka, verbally chastised and constantly disdained the former nomination of conservative Alan Keyes for a Senate run after losing our Republican (potential RINO) candidate, Jack Ryan, to an alleged sex scandal (he was married to Jeri Ryan from Star Trek). We now have Barak Obama for our Senator.

Politics is a funny thing. We had a Democrat headline at the 2004 RNC conference. In Illinois, some Democrats are more conservative than our RINO Republicans.

With Judy Baar Topinka running, no true conservative is happy to vote for her. As a result, her poll numbers are grossly below the incumbent Democrat governor (who is likely to be in court, soon).

I don't know if I will vote for her or stand out that vote while voting for all the rest. If our Democratic governor, "Blago", stays in, he may be arrested while in office. What a wonderful thing that would be!

Judy's with him on every campaign point save for one I know of. She announced this week that she is pro-death penalty. Why it took so long, I don't know. It may just be that she is trying to finally appeal to the conservatives she p-ssed off in the past, knowing she can't really appeal to Democrats over Rod. But as a Republican, she ought to know that.

The conservatives in the Republican party actually won the primary, but split the vote between two strongly conservative candidates. She came in with a few points more than the second place challenger. If the third place challenger hadn't stolen 20% of the vote due, in part, to pride issues and a lie about internal polling, a few points would have allowed a real choice here between a decent conservative and a liberal.

With two liberals running, do I vote for the one who berated conservatives for years or the one who respects them but thinks the same on issues as the RINO?

By the way, the current Democratic governor did something more conservative in his first year than any Republican governor ever in the history of Illinois. Rod didn't just put a moratorium on government spending, HE TOOK 8% OF ALREADY SPENT AND ALLOCATED DOLLARS BACK FROM THE BUDGETS OF MANY STATE AGENCIES IN MID-YEAR! That took some real balls.

So, how would you vote?


31 posted on 10/28/2006 9:45:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

Kill Machine Politics. Neither party benefits from lightweight, easily-elected "deserving". Mayor Daley, you might notice, only went so far in the Dem camp, though he sure raised hell in 1972.


36 posted on 10/28/2006 9:50:54 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Lynne Cheney 2008)
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To: ConservativeMind

Not knowing the candidates I can only leave it to you. I do understand the particular problems in some states, although my experience has been that when RINOs run, the Dem opponent is a leftwing extremist - for example, in OH, its DeWine (RINO) versus Sherrod Brown a Dennis Kucinich style far-left anti-Patriot act pro-higher taxes liberal.

I used to live in Illinois. Lynn Martin, remember her? She had a run against Paul Simon. Got nowhere though. Illinois has had the problem that the GOP traditional strength was up north and traditional Dem strength was a mix of south and chicago. The 'south' Dems are conservative. So I can see how in Illinois certain Democrats might make it through the primary that are somewhat conservative - BUT, you have Tubin' Durbin and Obamaram ... c'mon, big liberals there!
If you let the state go DEM it inevitably goes Liberal.
They redraw lines for Dems, and before you know it you
are in blue state hell.

So even though a pro-gun Dem candidate may pop up,
all the pro-gun folks should be in the GOP to start with!

The GOP RINOs have consistently failed to see that a conservative (on social issues) can win in Illinois by fusing the two. BUT IT IS NOT EASY. Look also to Pennsylvania... in PA for example Casey Jr is a transparent liberal phony, and an empty suit, who makes a few pro-life noises, but is the lockstep tool of schumer, hillary and kennedy. It's easy to tell that the only conservative choice in PA race is Santorum.

It only works if you have a candidate who has both social conservative and economic conservative credentials, even if it is a bit of both.

if the social conservative/pro-gun/rural voters and the suburban/moderate/fiscal conservative voters can line up behind a common conservative candidate, its a win/win.
If the RINOs are trying to force a non-conservative on GOP voters, I can understand the reluctance.

"The conservatives in the Republican party actually won the primary, but split the vote between two strongly conservative candidates. "

Step #1: GET RUNOFFS FOR PRIMARIES! We do it in Texas.
It's interesting that the top vote getter is not always the one who wins the runoff.

Step #2: GET CONSERVATIVES TO WIN THEM!


45 posted on 10/28/2006 10:03:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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