Posted on 10/27/2006 6:20:23 PM PDT by naturalman1975
But in the event of adultery, the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time with women. Why? Because the woman possesses the weapon of seduction. She is the one who takes her clothes off, cuts them short, acts flirtatious, puts on make-up and powder, and goes on the streets dallying. She is the one wearing a short dress, lifting it up, lowering it down, then a look, then a smile, then a word, then a greeting, then a chat, then a date, then a meeting, then a crime, then Long Bay Jail, then comes a merciless judge who gives you 65 years.
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That guy is pervert I am serious NM I hope Aussie cops keep close eye on this loser
Unfortunately this is not the belief of just ONE guy. This is Islam. I once heard an Imam justify how killing someone that converts to Christianity is good....he took about 20 minutes to say it going on and on and on and on, but he could not say simply that killing someone for choosing christianity over islam isn't right.
Man oh man, this guy's 'sermons' are enough to put anyone to sleep! Why would anyone want to be a Muzzie and subject themselves to this kind of diatribe, let alone the looney philosophy. Whew!
But in the event of adultery, the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time with women. Why? Because the woman possesses the weapon of seduction. She is the one who takes her clothes off, cuts them short, acts flirtatious, puts on make-up and powder, and goes on the streets dallying. She is the one wearing a short dress, lifting it up, lowering it down, then a look, then a smile, then a word, then a greeting, then a chat, then a date, then a meeting, then a crime, then Long Bay Jail, then comes a merciless judge who gives you 65 years.
Islam is straight from Hell.
1st - A televised apology to the women of Australia.
2nd - Hard time & labor in prison for encouraging rape where rape is already a problem from the Muslim population in Australia.
3rd - Deport the turd and his family back to the TURD WORLD where primitive assholes like him belong.
4rd - Put his sorry ass on the NO FLY list.
Semper Fi
YES! All of what YOU said!
shari'ah ping
The Australian NewsKeating stopped sheik's expulsion
Brad Norington
October 28, 2006
THE apology from the sheik was profuse. He had verbally attacked women, endorsed suicide bombings in Lebanon and declared that Jews were plotting world domination.
"The two cheapest things in Australia are the flesh of a woman and the meat of a pig," he said.
Taj Din al-Hilali accepted his words were offensive. "I genuinely believe that I have changed for the better," he insisted.
Nothing, it seems, has changed in the last 20 years. The nation's most senior Muslim cleric was not responding to public damnation over his Ramadan sermon last month in which he blamed women for inciting rape and likened them to abandoned "meat".
Chris Hurford, immigration minister in the Hawke Labor government, tried in 1986 to have him deported after Hilali had overstayed a tourist visa in 1982 and settled in Sydney.
Hurford wanted the sheik sent home to Egypt because his reported utterances were dividing the Muslim community.
But Hilali had two powerful Labor supporters on his side - Paul Keating and Leo McLeay - who would ultimately help him win his quest for permanent residency.
Keating, then federal treasurer, and McLeay, an influential backbencher from his party's Right faction, made no bones about their belief that Hilali should stay and lobbied on his behalf.
They were under pressure from the growing local Muslim community in their neighbouring western Sydney seats of Blaxland and Grayndler.
The Lakemba mosque where Hilali was the spiritual leader was in McLeay's electorate.
"It was a local political issue for people who lived in the electorate," said one observer.
"They took the philosophical view that if people in this religious group wanted Hilali to be their spiritual leader, why should they say no?"
But Hurford and other players close to the action take a different view.
They believe that Hilali was ultimately granted permanent residency by the Labor government in 1990 - in a decision made by Keating himself as acting prime minister while Bob Hawke was away - because the decision could help Labor in federal and state politics.
Barrie Unsworth, who was NSW premier from 1986 to 1988, confirms he and Hilali knew each other but denies he stood to benefit if the sheik was given residency.
"I didn't actively do anything to keep him here," Unsworth toldThe Weekend Australian yesterday.
"I had been to the Lakemba mosque and taken my shoes off and gone in. I met Hilali, I had to deal with him, but I also went to a synagogue in the eastern suburbs and met the head of the Coptic (Egyptian Orthodox) Church at the airport."
Keating did actively try to help Hilali stay.
He led a delegation of Muslim community leaders to see Hurford in his Canberra office in 1986, attempting to persuade the minister to reverse his opposition to the Muslim cleric.
Hurford wouldn't budge and continued to fight Hilali's application for residency in the Federal Court. But he didn't last much longer as immigration minister.
Hawke moved Hurford out of immigration a year later and gave him the community services portfolio of retiring senator Don Grimes.
The move was sold to Hurford as a promotion, but Hurford is understood to believe it was linked to his support for a "good settlement policy" - a view that did not sit well with Labor's version of multiculturalism.
In Hurford's mind, Hilali was a classic case of someone who should be rejected because he refused to integrate into Australian society.
But Hurford's replacement as minister, the late Mick Young, was much more receptive.
Tony Harris, then deputy head of the Immigration Department, recalls that it was Keating who ultimately allowed Hilali to stay in a decision he made as acting prime minister when Hawke was away.
Harris says he and then Immigration head Bill McKinnon believed that Labor had good reasons for giving Hilali residency.
"We surmised that Hilali came from that part of Sydney which was important to several Labor electorates, state and federal, that included Keating's electorate," Harris said.
"It was important to Labor because the party was very close to the Lebanese community.
"The view was that the Lebanese community was influential in selecting Labor candidates and had a heavy presence in electorates in the south and west of Sydney."
Hurford may regard himself as a casualty of refusing residency to Hilali but so, it appears, was the head of his department.
According to McKinnon's son, The Weekend Australian's freedom of information editor Michael McKinnon, his father's position cost him his job.
McKinnon says his late father told him he left the department involuntarily and was offered the job of high commissioner in New Zealand.
"I know he vehemently opposed granting permanent residency to the sheik," said McKinnon.
"My father paid with his job for putting national interest before the political interests of the ALP."
Longtime Labor adviser Richard Farmer says he and then fellow Hawke staffer Bob Sorby were sent to Unsworth's office to help with the NSW Labor government's campaign for the state election in 1988 because of their success with federal Labor the previous year.
Unsworth had only recently switched from the upper house to the lower house, in the southern seat of Rockdale, at a by-election and was very concerned not to lose it.
According to Farmer, the premier wanted to keep Hilali onside and have him take up residency to appease local Muslims.
"I have absolutely no doubt, because there was a big Lebanese community in that electorate and Barrie Unsworth wanted to make sure he was re-elected," Farmer said.
Unsworth rejects Farmer's claim as nonsense, saying the Muslims in his electorate were Shi'ites and attended the Arncliffe mosque, whereas Hilali was a Sunni and the leader of the Lakemba mosque.
"If Farmer says I was looking after Hilali in Rockdale it's nonsense - he fails to understand the structure of Muslim society," said Unsworth.
Unsworth lost the 1988 election and says he gained little campaign help from Farmer, now a winemaker and writer in South Australia, and Sorby, now a NSW judge.
"They were a couple of gunslingers imposed upon me by (NSW general secretary) Stephen Loosely," he said.
"They were uncontrollable."
Other senior Labor sources from that time say that Labor politics was very much mixed up in Hilali's battle to get permanent residency.
"Officially our policy was to send Hilali back but there were stacking wars going on among the Lebanese Muslims and (Christian) Maronites," said one source, who declined to be named.
"It was going on in the seats of St George, Barton and the inner city."
Keating yesterday declined to return The Weekend Australian's call.
But he was pitched at the time against another powerful figure, Lebanese Christian community leader Eddie Obeid, who wanted Hilali out.
Obeid, who owned the El Telegraph newspaper and later became a state Labor MP and minister, lobbied the NSW regional manager of the immigration department to have Hilali deported.
His newspaper printing press in Marrickville was burned down just days after El Telegraph published a story based on a taped recording of an inflammatory sermon by Hilali in 1982, likening the flesh of women to pig meat.
Obeid yesterday declined to comment but a source close to him said: "It was war out there. Burning down that building was the first terrorist act in Australia".
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20658333-601,00.html
"Born in Egypt in 1941, Hilali in the 1960s joined the Muslim Brotherhood, an extreme Islamist political organisation that claims to be non-violent but that has spawned terrorist groups such as al-Qa'ida through breakaway members. The possible influence of Sayyid Qutb, a Muslim Brotherhood member whose 1966 hanging and "strategic martyrdom" was central to the founding of modern Islamism, in fermenting the Australian Mufti's attitude to women cannot be ignored...
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20656733-601,00.html
An earlier thread on FR.
Post #8 inclusive
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1727169/posts?page=8#8
LOL - about time!
Cover up those carcasses!
Islam is a cancer on humanity.
Those illustrations are hilarious. I think he should be made to eat pork (unknowingly) and then be told. Probably, will give him a heart attack!
But seriously, the other day I was in Sydney and took the train from Wynyard to N. Sydney. They were playing Arabic music at Wynyard down by the platform, I'm not kidding! Now, Wynyard isn't in the Western Suburbs... Incredulous!
Who will rid us of this bothersome clerlic?
From November, 2004:
Australia: A push for more responsible moderate leadership of Australia's Muslim community:
"The controversial head of Australia's Muslims, Sheikh Taj Din al-Hilali, is under threat from a new Islamic council that is trying to gather support for an alternative leader. The Islamic High Council of Australia was formed in southwestern Sydney this month with plans to become the leading organisation of the country's 400,000 Muslims.
"Members of the council said their goal was to appoint a mufti of their own, in a direct challenge to Sheikh Hilali, the current mufti of Australia. The council is hoping to tap into disenchantment in some Muslim communities with Sheikh Hilali over his controversial speeches, in which he reportedly attacked Jews and supported suicide bombers...
"A spokesman for the new council, Mahmoud Krayem, said yesterday that 20 Muslim organisations had joined the council from different ethnic backgrounds around the country, including Afghan, Indonesian, Pakistani and Lebanese...
"The spiritual leader of the new council, Sheikh Salim Alwan Al-Hasani, said there was a need for a moderate umbrella organisation that 'totally refuses all kinds of extremism' and rejects interference from overseas."
According to Sheikh Alwan, "In looking at the current state of the Muslim leadership in Australia, we can confidently say there is an urgent need for the unity of all the moderate sheikhs, sincere scholars and the highly qualified and educated members of the community." In a dig at the perceived influence of Saudi Wahhabi money, Sheikh added that "Darul-Fatwa Islamic High Council of Australia [as the new group is known] is not a tool serving the interests of any foreign government nor does it accept or receive funds from any overseas sources." His final words offer encouragement for all those who hope to see the Muslim community taking a strong stance against the Islamist cancer: "Darul-Fatwa totally refuses all kinds of extremism as it refuses its elements from any group or individual and declares all acts of extremism unrelated to Islam, as Islam is not related to them in spite of those who claim otherwise."
http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004/11/good-news-from-islamic-world-part-2.html
Apparently, al Hilali is planning a trip to the ME soon. He should be stripped of aussie citizenship...he certainly does not belong here, and neither do his followers.
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