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Allen - You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Webb's Recollections of War - So Just Shut Up
Jim Webb for U.S. Senate ^ | October 27, 2006 | Jeff Pyatt and Jessica Smith

Posted on 10/27/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by areafiftyone

October 27, 2006
George Allen: You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Jim Webb’s Recollections of War – So Just Shut Up
And to Chris LaCivita, Who Did Serve, You Should Know Better – Shame on You

To: George Allen and his campaign
From: Steve Jarding
Re: Shame on both of you

George Allen and his campaign hit men this week chose to again attack Jim Webb and his military experiences, this time by taking passages from Webb’s novels to try to suggest that the explicit war time experiences Webb writes about are demeaning and repugnant.

On their attacks, I would like to say two things. First, the novels that the Allen camp attacks include Fields of Fire, which has been called the classic novel of the Vietnam War and was for years required reading on college campuses nationwide in classes relating to the illumination of war. They include, The Emperor’s General, which has been called a masterpiece of literature and was called by that raving liberal George F. Will, “This compelling, fascinating exercise of historical fiction proves, again, that Jim Webb is as fine a novelist as he was a Marine. Enough said;” and they include Born Fighting, which has been called brilliant and the most important ethnography of our time. Perhaps the Allen camp should learn to read books before they begin burning them.

Second, let me say one more time to George Allen and his lapdog assassins. Senator, you have not earned the right to question Jim Webb’s wartime experiences, from the ugliness of combat to the ugliness of what happens to civilians in nations ravaged by war. Senator, Jim Webb wrote of things he witnessed. They may have been ugly, but we should learn from their ugliness about the consequences of our votes and actions before we send men and women into war.


And Senator, you would not know this, but, war is demeaning, war is repugnant. People die and get maimed there. Innocent boys and girls are forced into prostitution, and are forced to perform heinous acts there. Jim Webb witnessed it all. And he wrote about it. You don’t think this is happening in Iraq?

Perhaps if you had read Webb’s book, you would not be so quick to take his experiences and attempt to twist them for selfish, personal, political gain. Perhaps if you had purchased Webb’s books and at least read about these types of atrocities, you would not have been so gung ho about blindly following the misguided and malfeasant actions of another man who did not witness firsthand the ugliness of war, George W. Bush. And perhaps if you had gone to Vietnam and served as a company commander instead of serving as a drover at a dude ranch, or serving as a surfing instructor on Malibu Beach, you would temper your feigned indignation. A man who did read this same book you disparage, John McCain, praised its honest portrayal of the heinous nature and repercussions of war.

Perhaps Senator, if sheltered Hollywood neighborhoods and elitist dude ranches had unspeakable death, destruction, rape, and unspeakable inhumanity to man and woman, you might now know how self serving your shock and indignation is. But, until you have witnessed firsthand the ugliness of war and the destruction it reaps upon all people, including the innocent ones, you should learn to keep quiet.

I understand, Senator, that your campaign is desperate and as such it is doing desperate things. But it is not lost on anyone that you were the one who went on statewide television pleading for a campaign on the issues. You clearly did not mean the words you uttered.

And finally, to Chris LaCivita, who did serve. Your statement regarding Jim Webb’s recollections of his war experiences, do not warrant a response. Shame on you.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bananas; chesterthemolester; pedophile; pervert; pornpeddler; stevejarding; virginiapervert; webb; webbsapervert
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To: kawaii
"Hey Webb liked what he saw enough to write literally sexed up fantasies about it. Seems hypocritical to call it all atrocities, he was apparently turned on."

That's one way to write off a Bangkok sex tour.
It's called the Pete Townsend defense, "Your honor, I was just doing research on a book I was writing"

What a crock.
121 posted on 10/27/2006 1:57:21 PM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: cinives

Under Jewish law, a mohel — someone who performs circumcisions — draws blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand, but Fischer uses a rare practice where he uses his mouth.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/02/health/main671106.shtml


122 posted on 10/27/2006 1:57:46 PM PDT by gb63
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To: areafiftyone

"Perhaps if you had purchased Webb’s books"

Team Webb: Perhaps if you had vetted Webb's books,...


123 posted on 10/27/2006 1:59:48 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: darkwing104

Who is this clown anyway?



124 posted on 10/27/2006 2:01:49 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

"Who is this clown anyway?"

You may simply refer to him as "Toast".


125 posted on 10/27/2006 2:03:21 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: incredulous joe; areafiftyone; iceskater
Team Webb: Perhaps if you had vetted Webb's books,...

Exactly. It's been my theory for months now that the RATS bought a pig in a poke, but found themselves stuck with Webb.

Heads up: They're trying ~once again~ to spread rumors about Allen's 1st marriage. There's nothing there. But that won't stop the lies.

It's showing up now on the National Enquier of the Va. Blogosphere. They've been running fake "scandals" just about every Friday.

126 posted on 10/27/2006 2:05:56 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yup I heard they want Allen's Divorce Records unsealed. They have been calling Allen's office asking him why his records are sealed. Its on the Liberal Talking Points Memo


127 posted on 10/27/2006 2:07:44 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

Webb's on his third wife. Someone should tell him "you go first."


128 posted on 10/27/2006 2:09:02 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: gb63
War made them do it! Really????

Yes. They are democraps and this is standard democrap behavior. Take no responsibility for your own actions. Blame ALWAYS is always on something/someone else.

129 posted on 10/27/2006 2:09:37 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Corin Stormhands

LOL Right you are!


130 posted on 10/27/2006 2:09:39 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

Desperate measures by desperate men...and women.

I know Webb is toast just from looking at the face on MSNBCWitch Norah O'Donnell today. She is morose and in despair.

Sorry, Norah, all your kneepads are being pulled out from under you.


131 posted on 10/27/2006 2:11:38 PM PDT by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: Palladin

But just now Michelle Malkin appeared on Cavuto (Fox) and seemed to try that deal about taking a high road. Of all people. Someone tell Malkin to get on the same page. This makes 2 or 3 times now that she seems to try to be nice and let things slide. She thinks we should't make a deal over the writings of Webb. PING Michelle....Pleeeze!


132 posted on 10/27/2006 2:17:58 PM PDT by gb63
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To: Corin Stormhands

"now that the RATS bought a pig in a poke"

Bet that pig cost a couple bills. I hope they got some Soros's money in the deal.

If these idiots knew this was "out there" they should have leaked it themselves months ago. In fact, that's what primaries are for.

So much for the blue wave! This is like a gift to the GOP. Webb should stay on. He might drag down Sherrod Brown and Harold Ford in his wake.


133 posted on 10/27/2006 2:19:43 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ...well, I have others." -Groucho Marx)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Webb has gone completely maccacca!

LOL !!

134 posted on 10/27/2006 2:23:15 PM PDT by WL-law
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To: gb63

She, of all people, should be outraged about Webb's slurs against Asian women.

Maybe she just doesn't want to go there because of the threats on her life made by DU and their ilk.


135 posted on 10/27/2006 2:28:38 PM PDT by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: areafiftyone
"Wanta Get Away?"
136 posted on 10/27/2006 2:30:23 PM PDT by Babu
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To: areafiftyone
Fields of Fire, which has been called the classic novel of the Vietnam War and was for years required reading on college campuses nationwide in classes relating to the illumination of war

In other words, a manual for Communist indoctrination on American campuses. Webb's socialism is far more disturbing than his glorification of perversion.

That said, the shrill indignation of the left on this so-called 'hit-piece' after literally MONTHS of front-page macaca-itis is laughable to the point of incredulity. This is pot meeting kettle, at 300 mph.

138 posted on 10/27/2006 2:40:31 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: areafiftyone

You don’t think this is happening in Iraq



Nope, not in any levels worth talking about. We are barely interacting with the locals (at least when I was there).


139 posted on 10/27/2006 2:53:34 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: areafiftyone

Way to GO! Thank you Webb campaign for responding EXACTLY the wrong way.


140 posted on 10/27/2006 2:55:08 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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