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Graphic Sexual Content in Webb's Novels Questioned
WTOP ^ | 10/27/07

Posted on 10/27/2006 5:44:03 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

WASHINGTON - Several conservative web sites are reporting a potentially explosive development in the campaign for the Virginia Senate seat.

Sites, including The Drudge Report, have pointed out several sexually graphic excerpts found in some of Webb's novels, including "Lost Soldiers." The sites are raising concerns about Webb's own character and his attitude toward women.

Drudge claims the information came from a news release, as provided by George Allen's campaign. WTOP has not been able to independently verify that the Allen camp sent the release.

Webb joins WTOP's Mark Plotkin this morning at 10 a.m. on the Politic's Program on Washington Post Radio at 107.7 FM and 1500 AM.


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To: Hemingway's Ghost

"Choose one: Because Webb wrote this passage, he's (a) a homosexual incestuous pedophile, or (b) an artist trying to make a dramatic point."

Here is one of the passages, "The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth." Please tell me what POINT the author was trying to make?
I don't know if he is a homosexual pedophile, but I doubt those kinds of thoughts occur to normal well-adjusted people.


81 posted on 10/27/2006 6:23:00 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

When you start throwing those rocks you have to be careful they arent picked up and thrown back.


82 posted on 10/27/2006 6:23:17 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; All

Examples of some of his writings at the link below from last night's thread. Caution: X-rated content.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726601/posts?page=467#467


83 posted on 10/27/2006 6:25:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("I don't know how anyone can go to Church on Sunday, and vote for a democrat the following Tuesday.")
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To: xsmommy
webb strikes me as very skeevey. i voted for Allen via absentee ballot a week or two ago.

He's an asshole, quite frankly. He was the keynote speaker at an alumni event up here about ten years ago, and he blew his own horn so much I thought he would break into a bout of autofellatio right there at the podium. I had, on hand, a copy of A Sense of Honor I had wanted him to sign, but his speech was so self-congratulatory I never took it out. I have not been a fan of Webb's since that night.

84 posted on 10/27/2006 6:25:30 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Webb's Fields of Fire is an outstanding book. I can't vouch for its accuracy or realism, as I did not serve as an infantry platoon leader during the Vietnam War. Webb's A Sense of Honor is the best book I've ever read about the U.S. Naval Academy experience. In fact, I'd recommend it to any young person contemplating attending the Academy.

Agreed. Attacking fictional passages seems like a non-starter to me. If this is the RPV's bigh push for this final weekend, VA Republicans should be damn worried about Tuesday and make sure they drag every Republican they know out to the polls.

A much more important question about Webb and his character is how a man who used to defend the Vietnam grunt can now accept endorsement and support from somebody like John Kerry. The Webb campaign happily trumpeted Kerry's endorsement, at which point a fair question would have been, "How can Webb accept support from Kerry, who - while still on active duty - organized North Vietnamese-sponsored show trials to condemn US servicemen?"

Attacking novels? Pffff... useless. Maybe a few nanny-staters will get their panties in a bunch over this. But really, "exposing" passages about forced oral sex and clever ways to cut a banana... that's just gonna get the Democrat base very excited about Webb.

85 posted on 10/27/2006 6:26:06 AM PDT by manapua
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To: Little Ray
"Ummm, not that I support him, but they're NOVELS."

Uh. OK. And Foley just wrote IM's.
86 posted on 10/27/2006 6:26:16 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Expect a lot of democrat poll-smoking between now and 11/7)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Miklaszewski has his panties all in a twist recently. Laura Ingraham is playing clips now of him fighting with Secy. Rumsfeld yesterday.


87 posted on 10/27/2006 6:26:54 AM PDT by mak5
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To: Little Ray
Ummm, not that I support him, but they're NOVELS.

He didn't create them in a vaccum. He hatched them within deep within his soul.

And he peddled them for profit.

88 posted on 10/27/2006 6:27:42 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

or (c) he's trying to make a dramatic point in a gratuitously vulger and offensive fashion. (And note the absense of the phrase "an artist.")

Webb's problem -- and I think it's a significant one -- will be that although people may accept the idea of a novelist senator, they most likely will reject one who traffics in this kind of borderline obscenity. I mean, come on--"The Tin Drum" handled this with more class!


89 posted on 10/27/2006 6:27:49 AM PDT by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

"These are fictional books with acts of PEDOPHILIA written by a guy who wants to be senator. We might not want him in DC."

Especially in the light of all the fuss about underage homosexuality regarding Foley. How would Webb's apologists react if Foley defended himself by saying that those messages were part of a novel he was writing.


90 posted on 10/27/2006 6:27:55 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
It says someting very disturbing about a person's mind and laues to be able to even dream up something like that, much less publish it.

It also says something very disturbing about Drudge for him to reprint that pornography on his front page, with no warning. I am as disgusted with him as I am with Webb.

91 posted on 10/27/2006 6:28:28 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The Red Chinese are going build MG's in Oklahoma-- that's just wrong on so many levels.)
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To: shhrubbery!
The assault on Fuhrman was the first thing I thought about when this story broke...
92 posted on 10/27/2006 6:29:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: manapua
Agreed. Attacking fictional passages seems like a non-starter to me.

Have you read them? Would you proud to write something similar and gift them to your children and grandchildren?

93 posted on 10/27/2006 6:29:30 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: mak5

Rumsfeld slapped Miklaszewski down.


94 posted on 10/27/2006 6:31:33 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

This wouldn't have been a "shock" if the media had done its job and talked about Webb's very public writings throughout the campaign.


95 posted on 10/27/2006 6:32:13 AM PDT by AmishDude (Mwahahahahahahahaha -- official evil laugh of the North American Union)
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To: AmishDude

You're right!


96 posted on 10/27/2006 6:32:39 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I don't know anything about writing books but I know something about human nature. In order to write you have to have an imagination and a person would have to have these images running through your mind.

So, are the people going to elect a person to this high office who has a sick and twisted mind?

My guess, Webb is going to try a 'ghost writer' defense.
97 posted on 10/27/2006 6:32:55 AM PDT by RetSignman (New York Times.."All the news that fits our agenda")
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To: BadAndy
Here is one of the passages, "The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth." Please tell me what POINT the author was trying to make?

As I am not Webb, I cannot say what was in his head, as a novelist and artist, when he wrote it. But as a writer myself, if I wrote a passage like that, I would be trying to draw from my readers a strong abhorrent reaction to the character performing that particular act. The more descriptive I made it, the stronger the reader's abhorrence would be.

I'd wager Webb was trying to paint this character in a very disagreeable way, and used language calculated to do so. How else would you expect an author to depict a homosexual pedophile? With happy bunny-and-kitten language?


98 posted on 10/27/2006 6:33:56 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Big E
I agree with you. I recall the book "Unintended Consequences" -- it is a dynomite must read for Pro-2nd Amendment Rights folks, IMHO. Towards the end of the book there's some sex stuff. Some conservatives complained about this humongous tome, focusing exclusively on the "sex scene stuff" and slamming the book over it.

I have some conservative pals who've also included sex scene stuff in their books.

They do not nor have run for office. If they did, they'd have to deal with this issue. They don't fear running for office and dealing with it; but it would and does distract from an election/issues campaign.

Webb needs to deal with this issue. He has obviously known, or his handlers certainly know, it would come up.

So Begala whining yet again that it's just about "fiction", is bs.

Webb is a sleeper socialist troll. Regardless of how well his books are written.

Liberals agreed to blow up big the "BJ/Lewinsky" story in re Clinton. Why? It spread the liberal agenda "by any means necessary". And now there's problems with Oral Sex epidemics at certain schools. After all, "oral sex" is not sex, according to liberals.

After what Allen has endured in this race, I think it's smart politics to bring this out.

Karma. Kismet. I agree.

99 posted on 10/27/2006 6:33:58 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Little Ray

Yup... they are novels.
Now lets make sure all his potential constituents understand what's in them.


100 posted on 10/27/2006 6:34:42 AM PDT by spookadelic
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