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Graphic Sexual Content in Webb's Novels Questioned
WTOP ^ | 10/27/07

Posted on 10/27/2006 5:44:03 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

WASHINGTON - Several conservative web sites are reporting a potentially explosive development in the campaign for the Virginia Senate seat.

Sites, including The Drudge Report, have pointed out several sexually graphic excerpts found in some of Webb's novels, including "Lost Soldiers." The sites are raising concerns about Webb's own character and his attitude toward women.

Drudge claims the information came from a news release, as provided by George Allen's campaign. WTOP has not been able to independently verify that the Allen camp sent the release.

Webb joins WTOP's Mark Plotkin this morning at 10 a.m. on the Politic's Program on Washington Post Radio at 107.7 FM and 1500 AM.


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To: murphE
No. There are ways of depicting evil without being pornographic. Some authors can do this well, others just write to titillate.

Given, but that's not the statement you made, was it? You wrote than any writer who even dreams this stuff up is without morals or virtue.

141 posted on 10/27/2006 7:17:23 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Little Ray

Pardon my pun, but I think Webb is going down on this one.


142 posted on 10/27/2006 7:17:24 AM PDT by Alia
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
"WRVA dismissed it today as an Allen "diatribe" and didn't mention the underage/incest/gay angle. "

How this issue affects the election will show a lot about the effects of the old media and the new!
Jimmy is much too polite to deal with a subject like this. I didn't catch him this morning but I'm sure he's honestly offended that such perversion was brought up.

Fortunately for Webb, the writing is so perverse that the media can protect Webb by just describing it as "graphic sex in a novel".

Anyone who actually reads it thinks Webb is too weird to be out of Hollywood.

143 posted on 10/27/2006 7:18:01 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Elyse
If that was what he was trying to point out and that's what he believes, then I think it says a lot about Webb as a person. Decent people do not lose their decency in war even if there are some things that are out of their control.

I've never been to war, so I can't say whether or not this is accurate. Have you been to war?

144 posted on 10/27/2006 7:19:28 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Alia

From your lips to the voter's ears...


145 posted on 10/27/2006 7:19:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
You wrote than any writer who even dreams this stuff up is without morals or virtue.

No, that's not what I said. I said that moral people who "dream up this stuff" do not write about it in graphic detail for public consumption.

146 posted on 10/27/2006 7:21:22 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
No, that's not what I said. I said that moral people who "dream up this stuff" do not write about it in graphic detail for public consumption.

They do if they are writers. More silliness.

147 posted on 10/27/2006 7:25:31 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
They do if they are writers.

Only sleazy writers. Moral writers, regardless of the subject, write for the greater glory of God.

148 posted on 10/27/2006 7:27:37 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Oh please, are you sure you aren't a Democrat? I don't have to go to war, I've seen enough historical evidence to support that claim from decent men that have lived through the horrors of war.

Webb's main character might not have been able to control the situation, but he wasn't even repulsed by it. He just sat there wondering, "gee, why did that guy do that?" That's ridiculous. Unless someone has gone insane they are not going to watch a scene like that and treat it non-chalantly. In their thoughts they are going to be repulsed and sickened by the actions and their inability to take action against it.


149 posted on 10/27/2006 7:28:48 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Little Ray

Yep from my lips to the voters ears. That's all my lips are gonna get close to. ;>


150 posted on 10/27/2006 7:32:29 AM PDT by Alia
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To: advance_copy
Webb is a creep. People in Virginia aren't going to vote for that.

I have several friends in Virginia. Most usually vote Democrat but I don't believe any of them will approve of Webb after this story gets out. If any of them do then I assure you that I won't be visiting them again. Webb's book may just be a novel but it could have been written without all the graphic details his filthy mind decide to include.

151 posted on 10/27/2006 7:34:13 AM PDT by jerry639
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To: Alia
"Ask yourself: Would I write books containing incestuous pedophilia in my free time?"

I might if I were trying to paint a character as a disgusting, contemptuous POS. I'm sure Tom Clancy would never bomb the Super Bowl, but he wrote about characters that would. Its called F-I-C-T-I-O-N.

152 posted on 10/27/2006 7:34:26 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: manapua
The Webb campaign happily trumpeted Kerry's endorsement, at which point a fair question would have been, "How can Webb accept support from Kerry, who - while still on active duty - organized North Vietnamese-sponsored show trials to condemn US servicemen?"

That's a question that should be answered, particularly since Webb has been critical of Kerry in the past. And yes, he's been critical of GWB too. But he's still critical of GWB, he has to explain the flip flop on Kerry.

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To be sure, Kerry deserves condemnation for his activities as the leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (WAW). In the early 1970s,this small organization - never more than 7,000 veterans out of a potential pool of 9 million- became the darling of the anti-war movement and the liberal media. Its activities went far beyond simply criticizing the politics of the war to repeatedly and dishonestly misrepresenting the service of Vietnam veterans and the positive feelings most felt after serving.

Kerry and his WAW compatriots portrayed their fellow veterans as unwilling soldiers, morally debased and haunted by their service. While this might have fit a small minority, the most accurate survey, done by the Harris Poll in 1980, showed that 91% of those who went to Vietnam were "glad they served their country," 74%"enjoyed their time in the military" and 89% agreed with the statement that "our troops were asked to fight in a war which our political leaders in Washington would not let them win."

Kerry's own comments were filled with hyperbolic exaggerations that sought to make egregious acts seem commonplace. During a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing in 1971, he testified that fellow veterans had routinely "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan. "With those words, he defamed a generation of honorable men. No matter how he spins it today, at a minimum, he owes them a full and complete apology.

The view that Kerry remained on the "wrong side" of the war was compounded by his failure to consult with leaders of America's million-plus Vietnamese community while playing a dominant role in the normalization of relations with communist Vietnam during the early 1990s. Many Vietnamese-Americans believe Kerry has been an apologist for the Hanoi government on such key issues as human rights. Kerry personally has bottled up the Vietnamese Human Rights Act, which twice passed the House by wide majorities, so that it cannot even be debated on the Senate floor.

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By contrast, Kerry's leadership of Vietnam Veterans Against the War is not only fair game; it speaks to legitimate issues of loyalty, and his actions at that time are the true core of this dispute. For most veterans it was not that Kerry was against the war, but that he used his military credentials to denigrate the service of a whole generation of veterans. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War was a very small, highly radical organization. Their stories of atrocious conduct, repeated in lurid detail by Kerry before the Congress, represented not the typical experience of the American soldier, but its ugly extreme. That the articulate, urbane Kerry would validate such allegations helped to make life hell for many Vietnam veterans, for a very long time.

153 posted on 10/27/2006 7:37:08 AM PDT by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: Natural Law
I might if I were trying to paint a character as a disgusting, contemptuous POS

A writer with virtuous goals can portray evil for what it is without gratuitous pornography.

154 posted on 10/27/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Natural Law
Um actually, "non" on the Fiction part.

Happening live, right now, Webb is being interviewed

"Second caller asks why Webb had to include sexual content in his book. Webb says I saw it, it happened, author has a duty to write about it, there was nothing sexual about it. "

155 posted on 10/27/2006 7:46:11 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"They do if they are writers. "

The "he's an artist" defense doesn't go very far.

His artistic "struggles with demons" are fair to examine. In Webb's case it fits a pattern that is very damaging to him politically.

Everyone who meets Webb, like you, seems to find him weird. "Wrapped too tight" seems to be the common impression.

(Though such a perverse personality may actually be a benefit to an artist.)

156 posted on 10/27/2006 7:49:24 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Elyse
Oh please, are you sure you aren't a Democrat? I don't have to go to war, I've seen enough historical evidence to support that claim from decent men that have lived through the horrors of war.

I'm quite positive I'm not a Democrat. What's that supposed to mean, anyway?

You truly believe you can draw a grand conclusion about how war affects man because you've read about it in books and you've seen it on television and in the movies? Wow. I suppose I should tell my father what he should've experienced in Vietnam because I saw Apocalypse Now and Platoon.

157 posted on 10/27/2006 7:59:04 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I asked if you weren't sure you weren't a Democrat because this seems to be one of their favorite comebacks for anything concerning a person's opinion on the war that they don't agree with - have you volunteered or have you sent your children? Sorry, I got snide, it just hit a nerve.

I have family members that have been to war, one was a Korean POW who was kept in a cage for nearly a year. I'm not talking about Hollywood hype, I'm talking about books and documentaries from real people. Saying that a person becomes so numb that they lose their decency is an excuse that indecent people use to justify their actions when they are caught.


158 posted on 10/27/2006 8:11:53 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Little Ray
Nope. Then again, I wouldn't trust Newt Gingrich, either.

Newt has nothing to do with this but since you brought him up, let's put it this way:

Of the two individuals, Jim Webb or Newt Gingrich, which one would you be LEAST worried about leaving alone in a room with a little 4 year old boy?

I vote Newt as being trustworthy and above reproach in that regard.

How 'bout you Ray? ;)
159 posted on 10/27/2006 8:22:36 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: mkjessup

Dunno 'bout little boys, but I wouldn't trust Newt with a teenage girl...


160 posted on 10/27/2006 8:29:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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