[TASMANIANRED]

The left has as a tactic to immunize a message by using a victim as a messenger.

You can't address the content of the argument because they say you are attacking a victim.

I reject the premise.

What ever else Michael is or does.. He intentionally and willfully participated in a fraud..

This does put his character in question.

Liberals want to be judged on their good intentions rather than the outcome of their actions. It is old policy to silence debate by trotting out victims...

I actually think this is an excellent debate and something that needs to be in the public arena.

[Blowtorch]

Your post is excellent and well phrased, and I have no disagreements with your statements. Your final point is especially good regarding the fact that this topic should be more discussed and debated in the public arena. I look forward to seeing your comments in more threads.