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A Record Drop In Home Prices
Washington Post ^ | October 26, 2006 | Kirstin Downey

Posted on 10/26/2006 12:53:25 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The price of existing homes last month fell 2.2 percent, the largest monthly decline in the almost four decades the number has been tracked, according to an industry report released yesterday.

Nationwide, the number of existing single-family homes sold fell 14.2 percent in September compared with September 2005, according to the report from the National Association of Realtors. The number of sales has fallen each month since March.

Prices fell everywhere in the country, with the Northeast and West most affected. Declines were more moderate in the South, which includes the Washington area....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; bubblebrigade; depression; despair; doom; frbubbleheads; gggsalesman; goldsalesman; miserytonight; realestate; tinfoil
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To: GodGunsGuts
You never answered my question. What's the dividend yield on the Amex Gold Bugs? Do you know what yield means? Or were you making stuff up? LOL!
101 posted on 10/27/2006 7:45:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I have never purchased anything at a pawn shop with silver.

I have in fact bought things with gold.
And they did give me a premium.


102 posted on 10/27/2006 8:09:09 AM PDT by djf (I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
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To: djf
I have in fact bought things with gold. And they did give me a premium.

Thanks for clearing that up. A pawn shop gave you more than your gold was worth. Cool.

103 posted on 10/27/2006 8:15:03 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; djf; ex-Texan
Your economic ignorance is much like that of the MSM.

Keep looking over your shoulder GGG. Tell us
again how you're so much smarter than the markets.

Now you can explain to us why that trade
deficit you whine about is killing us. LOL!!

105 posted on 10/27/2006 8:40:05 AM PDT by Mase
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To: pfony1
Do we agree on this point now?

No. The article's numbers are based on median value not average value, so your example isn't relevant. To get the published median value to work in your example, townhome prices would indeed have to fall a bit. The shocking statistic that I'd observe in your example is that sales of houses greater than a million dollars fell by 50% in one month.

106 posted on 10/27/2006 8:47:29 AM PDT by DonnDe
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To: Mase

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The net worth of U.S. households increased 0.1% in the second quarter to $53.3 trillion, the slowest gain in nearly four years, the Federal Reserve said Tuesday in its quarterly flow of funds report.

After adjusting for inflation and population growth, net worth fell in the quarter. Per-capita net worth fell to $178,290 from $178,505 in the first quarter.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B79103C23-8DEB-4A7B-AC5C-8945ECE71B6E%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=


107 posted on 10/27/2006 8:50:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Per-capita net worth fell to $178,290 from $178,505 in the first quarter.

How can we have all that net worth and still be doomed?

108 posted on 10/27/2006 8:57:56 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You are a purveyor of Keynesian cradle to grave debt dogma.

Funny, for a goldbug like you to make any money you need the government to become more Keynesian in the way they manage the economy. Our annual debt is just 2% of our GDP. If my debt is just 2% of my annual income, am I doomed? Do you realize how unqualified you are to be lecturing anyone about fundamentals?

People like you are the cause of doom and gloom.

Because I won't buy into your goldbug nonsense? LOL.

I simply report the effects of the disastrous policies you and your fellow debt-mongers advocate.

Simple is a good word to describe what you do. At least you're not posting our debt without assets any longer. Is that because you've learned how to calculate net worth?

With interest rates at their lowest level in four decades we've managed to increase our debt to income ratio by a full half a point in the past 10 years. Why does that scare you? Maybe you fear what you don't understand.


109 posted on 10/27/2006 8:58:31 AM PDT by Mase
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To: GodGunsGuts
Net worth, calculated by subtracting liabilities from assets, had increased 13% in 2003, 9.7% in 2004 and 8.5% in 2005.

How is that possible with the constant rise in the triple deficits?

110 posted on 10/27/2006 8:59:58 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Great news. This means more people will be able to afford their own home and it has no effect on those of us who already own homes. If we have to move, the lower price we get will be offset by the lower price we have to pay for a new home in a different location.

The only downside here seems to be for speculators who buy houses hoping to flip them quickly for more money. Anyone numb enough to buy at the recent peak prices is realizing the risk they took.


111 posted on 10/27/2006 9:01:58 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It would appear they are taking their toll has household net worth has been steadily declining every year.


112 posted on 10/27/2006 9:17:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
The net worth of U.S. households increased 0.1% in the second quarter to $53.3 trillion, the slowest gain in nearly four years, the Federal Reserve said Tuesday in its quarterly flow of funds report.

Now read it again and go back to the first cartoon in post #105.

Do you not see the obvious? You've become a water boy for the MSM.

Now look here at page 110.

Household net worth:

2000: $41.371 Trillion
2001: $40.377 " "
2002: $38.820 " "
2003: $43.981 " "
2004: $47.987 " "
2005: $51.811 " "
2006: $52.271 " " (quarter 1)
2006: $53.325 " " (quarter 2)

What is it about this growth that you don't understand? It doesn't travel in a straight line but it's up $12 trillion since 2000 and has nearly doubled since 1995. How does this mean we're doomed?

113 posted on 10/27/2006 9:21:12 AM PDT by Mase
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To: GodGunsGuts
It would appear they are taking their toll has household net worth has been steadily declining every year.

Net worth, calculated by subtracting liabilities from assets, had increased 13% in 2003, 9.7% in 2004 and 8.5% in 2005

LOL!

114 posted on 10/27/2006 9:22:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Mase
"It doesn't travel in a straight line but it's up $12 trillion since 2000 and has nearly doubled since 1995."

bttt 

115 posted on 10/27/2006 9:25:50 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: ByDesign
I have been based in Florida since 1995. Taxes and insurances here are far better then Mass. As for retirees, many of them do not expect to resell their new retirement home. They expect it to be their last major purchase (over 60 crowd). And for many of them, selling a place up north, depending on the mortgages, allows them to buy their Florida home with almost no mortgage and still plenty left over.

It all depends on where you want to be. If you must be in a metro area, then increased population leads to lower value for the dollar. In parts of Florida, you can get a very nice 2,000+ sqft place on a lake with 1+ acres for $200-300k (prior to 2002, those same places were < $175k). If you don't care about waterfront, prices drop drastically. You can build a 2,000+ sqft house with pool for about $80/sqft, you supply the land. In large metro areas, it would be difficult to even find a full acre and the prices increase with demand.

116 posted on 10/27/2006 9:31:29 AM PDT by sten
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To: Toddsterpatriot; GodGunsGuts
"It would appear they are taking their toll has household net worth has been steadily declining every year."

Net worth, calculated by subtracting liabilities from assets, had increased 13% in 2003, 9.7% in 2004 and 8.5% in 2005.

I don't think we'll see GGG teaching fundamentals at Wharton any time soon. ROFL!

117 posted on 10/27/2006 9:32:37 AM PDT by Mase
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To: sandyeggo

yes, that is quite common in florida. those people are called 'snow birds' and you notice a definite uptick in traffic after Christmas. Florida home prices, compared to up north, are a massive deal.


118 posted on 10/27/2006 9:35:50 AM PDT by sten
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To: Mase
Doesn't know the difference between a decline and an increase. Didn't know what interest rate he was paying on his margin debt, didn't understand what a bid-ask spread was, didn't know what commission he was paying and didn't know his P/L.

I don't think Warren Buffett is going to be asking him for trading tips either.

119 posted on 10/27/2006 9:48:25 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Mase; Toddsterpatriot

That is, the gains in net worth have been steadily declining every year.


120 posted on 10/27/2006 9:48:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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