Posted on 10/26/2006 10:55:44 AM PDT by Coleus
Activist Judges over rule the will of the people. If congress doesn't do something with these type of judges i.e. state and federal well....then we've brought what will happen on ourselves.......
I took the nerd test and got a "3", so I am always slow on the uptake.
: ) , how ya doin' on the html studies?
(Had to pack up to move, property didn't sell, now we're "moving back in". Maybe one of these days...)
I did learn color, though.
:-]
Those are good points.
But the state instituted the marriage benefits to encourage and abet family stability. That it doesn't work doesn't mean they are wrong. [Lots of things are wrong but you do not wipe away the laws with an "oh well" wave.]
And the state has a vital interest in the raising of its citizens...[we have asked them to take that interest. We demanded things like immunizations for all children, for example, because on a very base level, we don't want someone else's kids getting ours sick. The state agrees because prevention is better than treatment.]
But allowing homosexuals the full rights and priveleges of their decision to mock and mimic marriage is a very wrong message to give to our children. And the state should have made this argument. Those parents who conceive children for the express purpose of raising them in a homosexual setting should be charged with abuse...not pitied and abetted by the state.
I could not believe the tortuous logic of the opinion and the blatant disregard for their own laws.
My suspicion is the the NJ AG didn't care to fight this issue very hard.
Too bad for NJ.
"when people got married without any formal government recognition at all. "
When was this? Civil marriage predates religious marriage by about 1000 years in western history.
My suspicion is that the NJ AG is a flaming @sshole who isn't even fit to clean dog puke out of the gutter.
I don't even know who the hell the AG is right now, but the last one was only in office for about 7-8 months before she was thrown out on her @ss for trying to get her live-in boyfriend out of some legal trouble.
I'm curious to know how many marriages were documented in this country before the Civil War -- especially when you consider that lots of people came here from foreign countries and many folks lived on the frontier where there wasn't much "government" to speak of.
The answer is more than you realize. The "frontier" was rapidly settled in a mere 75 years. Oregon held it's first STATE FAIR in 1861 a mere 55 years after the Lewis and Clark expedition.
Government "arrived" almost as fast as the people did.
The Whitman Massacre occurred in 1847 and Walla Walla built it's first courthouse just 20 years later a few miles from the spot.
U.S. states were mostly admitted from east to west, but once California was admitted in 1850 there was a west-to-east progression as well. A point of interest/curiosity is that California was one of only two states (other than some of the original thirteen) to be admitted without being physically connected to any other U.S. state at the time it was admitted. The other was Louisiana, which was admitted in 1812 and remained physically separated from the rest of the U.S. before Mississippi was added in 1817.
California (1850), Oregon (1859), Nevada (1864) and Washington (1889) remained separated from the rest of the U.S. until Idaho was admitted in 1890.
Not really, they all had established Territorial governments and the rule of law before they became states.
Walla Walla is in Washington and built a courthourse 20 years after the Whitman Massacre and 20 years before it became a state.
The American Frontier was a very short lived phenomenon romanticized in fiction and film.
The purpose of the court ruling is to grant cover to the legislature to legalize same-sex marriage, and claim "We had no choice -- it was a court order!"
The court can strike down legislation that violates the state constitution, but it has no authority to order the legislature to pass legislation.
If you want to get a good sense of just how "young" North America is, just think of this . . . before the Interstate Highway System was established in the 1950s, a road trip between New York and Los Angeles took weeks. A young Dwight Eisenhower once traveled in a military convoy from Washington, D.C. to San Francisco -- a trip that took two months in 1919.
And it wasn't even possible to drive across Canada on paved roads until something like 1967.
All true. Marriage however has been civil tradition since the Romans. The church did not get into the act until the 1200's. It became a sacrement in the 1500's. After the Protestant split, many protestent sects did not practice religiuos ceremonies, only civil ones.
Marriage has always been a creature of the state.
Judges are so important.
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