Posted on 10/26/2006 3:43:27 AM PDT by theothercheek
New York Times columnist John Tierney fears that Iraqis will never put aside their differences to form a unified nation in which people "look on society as a collection of individuals working for the common good of the nation" (subscription required):
Iraqis bravely went to the polls and waved their purple fingers, but they voted along sectarian lines. Appeals to their religion trumped appeals to the national interest. And as the beleaguered police in Amara saw last week, religion gets trumped by the clan.
The deadly battle in Amara wasnt between Sunnis and Shiites, but between two Shiite clans that have feuded for generations. After one clans militia destroyed police stations and took over half the city, the Iraqi Army did not ride to the rescue.
Authorities regained control only after the clan leaders negotiated a truce.
When the U.S. invaded Iraq, American optimists invoked Germany and Japan as models for their democratization project, but Iraq didnt have the cultural cohesion or national identity of those countries. "In a modern state a citizens allegiance is to the state, but theirs is to their clan and their tribe," Ihsan M. al-Hassan, a sociologist at the University of Baghdad, warned three years ago.
These allegiances explain why Iraqis dont want to give up their local militias. They know its unrealistic to expect protection from a national force of soldiers or police officers from other clans, other regions, other religions. When the Iraqi Army ordered reinforcements to go help Americans keep peace in Baghdad, several Iraqi battalions deserted rather than risk their lives defending strangers.
As The Stiletto was reading Tierneys analysis, it occurred to her that US society is devolving into tribalism but instead of tribes being formed around clans, they are formed around political issues and ideologies. For instance, pro-abortion Americans only vote for pro-abortion candidates. And Dems are banking on opposition to the Iraq War bringing them like-minded voters who will not care that the party has no clue what it will do next if it captures Congress except paralyze the Bush administration with endless probes and investigations.
Quoted in The Wall Street Journals Political Diary (subscription to e-mail newsletter required) on Lou Dobbs book, "War on the Middle Class," syndicated columnist Reuben Navarette, illustrates this dangerous, disheartening trend:
There are Americans who believe that this is still a country of unlimited opportunity for those who work hard and sacrifice. And there are others who are convinced that the deck is stacked against working men and women. There are those who believe that what works against some folks are not the bad breaks, but bad choices such as dropping out of high school or ambling through life without ambition. And there are others who believe that human beings are at the mercy of sinister forces beyond their control. If you fall into the first category, you're part of my America. If you're in the second, you're part of Lou Dobbs' America."
The Stiletto wistfully remembers a time when it wasnt "my America" or "your America" but "our America" especially when soldiers were in harms way. One nation, under G-d, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. You know, the good ol' days.
This article is just stating the obvious. These people have an inbred hatred for one another and it will continue until the current generation dies out. The hatred is passed down from one generation to the next.
Ridiculous. No one - not even the most devoted Bushbot - thought Iraq would look like the U.S. politically. They'll come together when the threat of dying becomes great enough for no one to ignore.
The US was supposed to become like Iraq? Wow, I didn't realize that was one of our goals.
It does seem that Americans are pitted one against the other. But that behavior is the result of years and years of indoctrination of the children of this country by the leftist, socialist revolutionaries in our schools, in our courts, in our newspapers, television news (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN). We have a lost generation of people who do not understand basic economics but do know how to put a condom on a banana. We have a generation of people who believe in redistribution of wealth because they have been taught that the deck is stacked against them (and only the Democrats care). As this country continues down the slippery slope of socialism, we will all be bankrupt.
That whole area needs a realignment. That has always been the problem in the middle east. There are too many artifically created borders that placed people where they truly didn't belong.
In all fairness to the people of that region, the best thing that could happen is that there is a major fustercluck and Iraq is broken down into three countries.
Of course the problem then becomes Iran invading the south, Syria coming into Central Iraq and Turkey invading the north.
I agree w/ that. Just as in the former Yugoslavia where they finally tired of killing each other. Whether or not that requires three separate nations of a federalist construct will have to be worked out.
Either way I believe that this transformation cannot occur w/o US assistance.
President Bush has always stated that it was NEVER going to look like America, but would take the form that Iraqis wanted it to have. This was discussed for months during the writing of the Constitution. dims lie, are so dumb they forget... or both!
LLS
Well, it's not exactly like the U.S. For instance the chance of getting shot is lower than in D.C.
All that is missing in Philadelphia is IED's . The body count keeps climbing in the " City of Brotherly Love !"
It was supposed to become like the USA, but instead it became more like Detroit.
The only difference... More American's have been murdered in Detroit over that last 3+ years, than have died in Iraq fighting for a good cause. Other than that, they're pretty much the same, and Detroit is in the USA. So maybe they have become like the USA in a sense.
Somebody hasn't looked at the murder rates and riots in the US?
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