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Charles wants multi-faith coronation service
Daily Mail ^ | 26th October 2006 | Daily Mail

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:26:14 PM PDT by Eurotwit

Prince Charles wants to be crowned King in a multi-faith coronation service in a dramatic break with tradition, it is claimed.

The Prince is said to have decided that the Christian service in Westminster Abbey must be followed by a separate ceremony involving religious leaders from other faiths.

Held in the ancient Westminster Hall inside the Palace of Westminster, the service would attempt to give room to Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Sikh beliefs as well as other Christian denominations.

Prince Charles believes reforms to the coronation are vital to reflect the changes in British society that have taken place since the Queen was crowned in 1953, according to a report in this week's Spectator magazine.

It also claims he has been appalled by the string of politicians "sounding off" about multiculturalism, in particular the wearing of the veil by Muslim women.

Clarence House refused to comment on the claims.

It has always declined to discuss Prince Charles's coronation plans while the Queen is alive.

However, a senior source told the Daily Mail that the accession plans had been reviewed last year, though he insisted this was "routine."

The prince, who will become Supreme Governor of the Church of England when he becomes king, has already said that he wants to be Defender of Faith - not Defender of the Faith - when he accedes to the throne.

He is close to Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, who has called for a multi-faith coronation.

That puts him at odds with Rowan Williams, his successor, and with most Anglican bishops, who oppose such a move.

The crowning of the sovereign has taken place for almost 1,000 years at Westminster Abbey. The new king or queen takes the coronation oath which includes a pledge to maintain the Church of England.

At her coronation in 1953, the Queen swore to uphold "the laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel, maintain the Protestant reformed religion established by law and maintain and reserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England."

The Spectator article quotes a courtier as saying the Queen recognises, however, that she has no say over her son's coronation service.

"Her Majesty has carried out her duties to the letter throughout her life and she knows that they extend to the very end of the final act," he says.

"She recognises, however, that she should not exert her influence one second beyond the conclusion of her funeral. The coronation is a matter solely for the PoW."

The report says Prince Charles is keen that his coronation should "bear his imprimatur" and that it should be seen to mark the beginning of a new era and a new kind of reign.

Although his mother permitted television cameras from the BBC into Westminster Abbey to transmit live pictures of her coronation, they were required to withdraw at certain points in the ceremony which she felt to be too sacred.

But Prince Charles is said to believe that such deference is now inappropriate.

He also wants the service truncated into a "less unwieldy' and more 'focused and telecentric" event, according to the report.

He also believes it should acknowledge the religious diversity of the country that he will be ruling.

The report says that following the formal Christian ceremony in the Abbey, the Prince wants here should be a separate interdenominational ceremony in Westminster Hall to reflect his desire to represent the peoples of all religions.

The separate gathering would be unlikely to take place immediately after the formal Christian coronation, but at a later date.

While Labour politicians have attacked the failings of multiculturalism in recent months, the idea of a separate coronation service to meet the requirements of other faiths has recently been mooted by the Evangelical Alliance, which represents a million evangelical Christians in the UK.

"It is no secret that the PoW has long felt passionately about this matter," the courtier added.

"His determination not to yield so much as an inch of this ground has been strengthened a hundredfold by the events of recent weeks."

"It has dismayed him to see the people who will one day be his subjects turn upon each other on the basis of their religious convictions." "As sovereign, he will wish to demonstrate that he is apart from the politicians who have been sounding off so much lately on, among other things, the issue of veils and that he can set an example for the entire country to follow."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; dhimmitude; princecharles; princechuckles; princeupchuck; qeii
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To: Eurotwit

Ever since Oliver Cromwell took Bonnie Prince Charlie's head way back when, Britain's royal family has strictly been for entertainment value. These people aren't in positions of authority - they are merely glorified entertainers.


61 posted on 10/26/2006 3:05:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Eurotwit

Charles is an inbred pink-eyed booger eating moron.


62 posted on 10/26/2006 3:14:58 AM PDT by metesky (My investment portfolio is holding steady @ .05ยข a can.)
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To: Eurotwit

Just scrap the monarch altogether, then. At least, take the status of 'Supreme Governor of the Church of England' from him.


63 posted on 10/26/2006 3:26:10 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: Eurotwit

I don't like the sound of, King William

too common

how about,

Canute
Macbeth


64 posted on 10/26/2006 3:43:41 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: greasepaint

If we had won the battle of Stamford Bridge, the rightful king might have been Eric Bloodaxe :-)


65 posted on 10/26/2006 3:46:18 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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Prince Charles wants to be crowned King in a multi-faith coronation service in a dramatic break with tradition, it is claimed.
66 posted on 10/26/2006 3:47:02 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Eurotwit
I've never understood the attraction of monarchy. Let a family, and all its descendents rule over you and worship them with a reverence that should be reserved for God alone. The monarchy is an evil institution.

Read what Thomas Paine said about the monarchy in 1776 in Common Sense.

67 posted on 10/26/2006 4:04:43 AM PDT by rockprof
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To: Eurotwit
What a pampered, pretentious fop.
68 posted on 10/26/2006 4:05:55 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.freerepublic.com/~starcmc/)
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To: Eurotwit
It has always declined to discuss Prince Charles's coronation plans while the Queen is alive.

If this is true, apparently not.

69 posted on 10/26/2006 4:06:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SAJ

No, he is not obligated and can chose a name of his own.


70 posted on 10/26/2006 4:12:22 AM PDT by carton253 (Sadness is just another word for not enough chocolate.)
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To: Eurotwit

When one immigrates one must assimilate!

That means choosing to celebrate the traditions of your new home country, not changing those traditions to suit your whatevers.

It means you are British, not --British.

Prince Charles is very wrong in changing the ascension to the crown.


71 posted on 10/26/2006 4:19:43 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Zhang Fei
Ever since Oliver Cromwell took Bonnie Prince Charlie's head way back when,

Interested how Cromwell did that head taking ? Cromwell died in 1658 . Bonnie Charlie was born in 1720 . And died in Italy.

72 posted on 10/26/2006 4:20:12 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: carton253
No, he is not obligated and can chose a name of his own.

King Fred.

73 posted on 10/26/2006 4:20:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Eurotwit
Charles will be like Edward VIII, he either will never be king or he will abdicate in favor of William.

Charles will wind up like the Duke of Windsor, increasingly irrelevant to the world scene.

74 posted on 10/26/2006 4:41:41 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I follow this with some interest, since Prince Charles and I are the same age, and my mother was the same age as the Queen. My mother was always interested in the goings on of the British royalty, and I retain an interest, although I must admit it is increasingly like watching a train wreck.

I haven't seen the movie "The Queen" but I am beginning to wonder if this isn't a PR effort to get the Queen to abdicate and let Charles take the throne. I wouldln't put it past the Charles faction.

I imagine WIlliam will be an unconventional king as well, having been brought up by his mother through his formative years.

It's a shame Harry can't be king. I kind of root for him, and Prince Hal remains a favorite historical figure of mine.

75 posted on 10/26/2006 4:59:01 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Eurotwit

We shall see what the Heavenly Father decides to allow the prince to do.


76 posted on 10/26/2006 5:11:58 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SoCalPol

But how do we know William is going to be any better than Charles? Is there some evidence?

By the way, I can't wait for a Jewish coronation!


77 posted on 10/26/2006 5:14:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: MadIvan

why the heck is chuck flapping his lips about this while his mum is still alive? VERY bad taste!


78 posted on 10/26/2006 5:16:04 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Eurotwit

Two words come to mind after reading this story:

"Jesus wept."

Be Seeing You,

Chris


79 posted on 10/26/2006 5:16:19 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Eurotwit; dighton; martin_fierro; Lijahsbubbe

I think those are Sikhs with Chuck.


But still ...


80 posted on 10/26/2006 5:18:11 AM PDT by aculeus
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