Posted on 10/25/2006 1:40:59 AM PDT by Republicain
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The le Report is not very honest in that the "riots" never really subsided. They are STILL getting many cars burned each week and more and more french policemen being attacked and injured in the neighborhoods. The problem is STILL as volitile as ever.
What is your opinion on these riots? Is it Islam-based, race-based, some combination of the two, or another factor? Eurotwit was already asked in another thread.
OK, where's the French Foreign Legion when you need them?
It's not race based. Is it islam-based ? Yes and no. Yes because the majority of the rioters are muslims and because a lot of them are not more or less indifferent to islamists' propaganda. No because it's not a 'jihadist' fight. It's a 'low intensity war' between the French State (via the police) and groups of jobless, deliquent and violent 'youths' for the control of territories (the 'no-go zones'). And why do the 'youths' want to control 'their' territories ? Two reasons. First, to control safe areas for their criminal activities (drug dealing, traffics, robberies, even prostitution...). Second, to impose their laws on the population by the fear. And amongst these 'criminal laws', islamists try to impose their own laws, the Sharia. So, it's a mix of criminality and religious extremism.
France has already accepted an Islamic takeover. Besides, in their bigoted minds, the French see one good thing coming out of this -- their country soon will be free of "Joooos".
And a fanatic, insatiable, genocidal hatred of Jews is something both the Islamofascist "youths" and a majority of the French people agree on.
I'm always astonished by the arrogance of the ignorants...
I suspect the depraved mullahs are feeding their victimhood and hatred instead of providing leadership and self examination.
'Self examination' is always antinomical to extremism.
"Sarko is the provocative element," said Kiko. "And if he is elected next year I warn you: people will be killed."
Well, here's to hoping Kiko's prediction comes true--the French will start using BULLETS to defend themselves and will kill some of these "disaffected youth."
Reap what ya sow there frenchy.
Last year you should have shot to kill anyone seen torching vehicles and deported back to from whatever rock the supporters came from and that would have stopped it.
Now instead your vaunted cops are targeted while cars still are torched.
But hey your most wonderful f-ing butt kissing culture will win the day.
Yeah right.
Would you be in favor of a civil war in the USA ? I don't hope so. So why should we (the French) be in favor of a civil war in France ? We actually live in a 'low intensity civil war' and we try to avoid a 'high intensity civil war'. It will be a tough fight, take a long time (10 years ? 20 years ?) and, moreover, need a lot of self-control from the french authorities and the french population. There are no easy solutions, like you seem to imagine. And we don't have the right to fail for West's future and stability.
SO then let the criminals keep torching property and atacking cops.
You are right. sounds great.
You wouldn't want to do what the Spanish fianlly did and throw the mooselimbs out. Nahhh.
30% of the French Army is Moslem. Who would they be shooting?
Nobody wants to let criminals (muslims or not) do what they want. But the alernatives are not "weakness and laissez-faire" or "deportation and extermination". As almost always, the truth is in the middle. The real weakness is to believe that there are easy solutions to difficult issues.
We are not at all in the Spain's 15's century situation. Of course, history should be a source of lessons, but not a source of irrational fears and inappropriate solutions.
Hopefully, French Army is not involved in the actual situation. And not at all necessary. France have enough policemen, CRS (anti-riot police) and gendarmes to deal with banlieues'problems. And 30 % of muslims in French Army seems to me far different from reality. The source of your datas ?
"30% of the French Army is Moslem. Who would they be shooting?"
Those who are attacking police officers. They should be shot dead if they threaten the police in any way. I don't care if 30% are Muslim, they have a duty to defend and protect the French people. If they can't do that, they should be relieved of duty immediately and prosecuted. I never hear this argument made about Christian police officers or soldiers.
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