Posted on 10/24/2006 3:42:45 PM PDT by kristinn
Edited on 10/24/2006 6:49:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
"I think that's what happened to Christopher Reeve...I think he had embryonic stem cell "therapy" that gave him cancer."
Any proof other than your "thoughts?"
Just that he obviously had some kind of cancer treatment that made his hair fall out. What do you think he died of? They would never say....kind of makes one go hmmmmm.
http://abortiontv.com/Misc/Embryonic_Stem_Cell%20Research_Tumors%20.htm
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Causes Tumors, New Study Shows
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
October 23, 2006
Rochester, NY (LifeNews.com) -- Scientists working with embryonic stem cell research on animals reconfirmed what pro-life advocates have been saying for years about it. Researcher Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center said injecting embryonic stem cells into the brains of patients with Parkinson's disease would cause tumors.
Goldman's research team has been injecting the controversial cells into rats that have the disease and the cells turned into tumors afterwards.
The scientists explained their findings in an article in the latest issue of Nature Medicine. They said the embryonic stem cell injections helped some of the rats but some of the cells started growing in a manner that would eventually lead to a tumor. "The behavioral data validate the utility of the approach. But it also raises a cautionary flag and says we are not ready for prime time yet," Goldman told the Washington Post.
He conceded that considerably more research would need to be done to determine whether the tumor problems could ever be overcome. Parkinson's is a disease where dopamine-releasing cells in the brain die out, which leads to muscle dysfunction and can eventually cause paralysis. The goal of stem cell research in Parkinson's is to replace the dead cells with stem cells that form into new dopamine cells. Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells obtained by killing days-old unborn children that were grown in a special chemical used to coax them into becoming brain cells.
The team killed the rats before they could determine that the tumors that appeared to be growing actually finished appearing and they said that any embryonic stem cell treatments on humans, which has never been tried, would have to be closely monitored. Some autopsies on the rats found tumors and that the embryonic stem cells began to grow uncontrollably rather than becoming the dopamine cells as intended. Another team led by Ole Isacson, a Harvard Medical School professor of neuroscience and neurology, published similar results earlier this month in the online journal Stem Cells and found that the embryonic stem cells also produced tumors.
Adult stem cells have not had the same problems and have been used successfully to treat dozens of diseases and conditions. But scientists have said they don't think embryonic stem cell research will lead to a cure for Parkinson's. University of Melbourne Emeritus Professor of Medicine Thomas Martin told Australian lawmakers recently that he did not think that embryonic stem cell research would even lead to cures for major diseases such as diabetes or Parkinson's.
Martin, an internationally recognized Fellow of the Royal Society, said the embryonic stem cells produced from human cloning would have the same problems.
I agree with you about Fox. I liked him very much.
But there is something off kilter about his political ads and I'm sure he is smart enough to know it.
Does he really believe the kind of stem cell research would provide a cure? There is no evidence that it would, but ill people often grasp at straws.
Does he not know that embryonic research is NOT against the law? Or that the very candidate he's promoting was the one who voted against it?
There are just too many weird things going on here.
I always used to say that the libs always drug someone out in a wheelchair when they wanted to make a point (Hi, John Edwards)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726267/posts
The Wrong Tree Embryonic stem cells are not all that.
http://www.nationalreview.com/ ^ | May 13, 2004, 8:58 a.m. | Wesley J. Smith
Posted on 10/26/2006 7:32:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/comment/smith200405130858.asp
May 13, 2004, 8:58 a.m. The Wrong Tree Embryonic stem cells are not all that.
By Wesley J. Smith
Once again the media are trumpeting the call among many in Congress, pushed by millions in Big Biotech lobbying money, for President Bush to reverse his decision to limit federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research (ESCR) to those lines already in existence on August 9, 2001. Fronted this time by the grief-stricken Nancy Reagan, and boosted by Hollywood celebrities such as Christopher Reeve, Michael J. Fox, and Mary Tyler Moore, we are warned darkly, as a recent New York Times editorial put it, that the existing federal-funding restrictions "are so potentially damaging to medicine" that the administration is encountering opposition to its policy even among its "own conservative supporters."
We have heard this mantra many times before but repetition does not make it true. A great deal has been learned about the potential of regenerative medicine since President Bush reached his "compromise" decision ending the stem-cell debate of 2001. And indeed, perhaps the time has come for us to revisit this issue, albeit from a different angle than suggested by ESCR boosters. Perhaps the problem with the Bush plan isn't that it provides too little federal money for ESCR, but too much — at least if our national goal is to find cures to diseases such as Alzheimer's, diabetes, and Parkinson's in the shortest period of time.
The media is so excited about the supposed potential of embryonic stem cells that it gives far too little attention to the many and serious problems associated with this potential source of regenerative medicine. Listening to the hype, one might think that ESCR is on the verge of tremendous success. But the hard truth is that it does not appear likely that embryonic stem cells will soon become the panacea that fervid supporters of the research often claim. For example:
In animal studies, embryonic-stem-cell treatments have been found to cause tumors. In one mouse study involving an attempt to treat Parkinson's-type symptoms, more than 20 percent of the mice died from brain tumors — this despite researchers reducing the number of cells administered from the usual 100,000 to 1,000.
Tissue rejection is another major hurdle to the use of embryonic stem cells in medical treatments. This is why ESCR is known as the gateway to human cloning, since one proposed way out of this potential dilemma is to create cloned embryos of patients being treated as a source of stem cells, a process known as "therapeutic cloning." Not coincidentally, many of the same proponents who are now urging increased funding for ESCR also advocate that we legalize and publicly fund therapeutic-cloning research, which many find immoral because it creates cloned human life for the sole purpose of experimentation and destruction.
Besides being immoral, therapeutic cloning also looks to be wildly impractical. For example, a recent report published by the National Academy of Sciences warned that it could cost in the neighborhood of $200,000 just to pay for the human eggs to derive one cloned human embryonic-stem-cell line.
The above is an excerpt. Please go to the full thread for an excellent rebuttal to Fox and the other lying liberals:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726267/posts
Just stay away from the front lines, please, we don't need any weak knees in the trenches.
Play into the hands of the Democrats; that's fine. But it does not do our side any good and I, for one, will not be a Rush Sheep.
Petty Sniping? I have a problem with Rush? I don't have a problem with Rush. I usually like Rush. But I don't need to pretend I like what he said about MJF to be accepted by Conservatives. I thought THAT was petty and small and he should be beyond that. He was totally over the top this time. He played right into the hands of the left by creating this ...when there were WAY MORE TOPICS he could have been focusing on.
And by the way, all the news stories talk about Rush's half apology. I heard his apology and it was sincere. But had he shut up and talked about something else, there would be no issue.
Okay.
MJ Fox has entered the political arena with his intentionally deceiptful message. The implications of his desired result go well beyond what your narrow focus (whatever that is?) can see.
Fox and his Goerbel scriptwriters must be defeated. Yes, this is a war. A war of ideas and a war of results. The desired results of the MJ Fox side is continued abortion on demand, with baby farms from poor women's eggs used to murder more innocent unborn lives in the name of research. Just to name a few things. He wants to use his disease as a way to get his team elected. His team will bring disasterous results to this nation.
Sorry, but Mr Fox is fair game, and Rush has presented a solid case of facts thats are irrefutable. And, he has much support from the scientific and medical community.
You, on the other hand, are paying cash for the enemy propaganda. Now you are trying to spread it here like a foul disease. That's why you need to stay away from this fight. Maybe you can join the Evo-creeps and pile on other conservatives in the trash bin threads.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.