Finland makes Latin the King

BBC ^ | 10/24/06 | Jonny Dymond

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

en! quam exstant! nonne piget te earum?
Lo! How they stand forth! Do they not disgust you?)

After reading this poem I don't know if I should thank you for the translation or not! I normally associate the modern use of Latin with culture. I am glad not to have wasted the evening in a Latin dictionary and in trying to recollect Latin grammar from 30 years ago. Thanks, I guess.

[scrabblehack]

That Perseus site at tufts.edu is very good.

I have formally studied Latin, and taken a look at some other languages on my own.

To answer your question, the 1st declension ablative singular ending in -a should have a macron.

Also the 3rd conjugation, 2nd person singular future passive ending in -eris should have a macron on the e, while the 3rd conjugation, 2nd person singular present passive should not.

I got a Greek program some time long ago -- dang, in order to get credit you have to get all the diacritical marks right. It's kind of discouraging.

The only one I can see that is really necessary is the leading ' (as in 'ustera, and if you were transliterating, you would write hystera) -- although if I had formally studied it in school, I might see the issue differently.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[narses]

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[Dumb_Ox]

Are the long vowel marks for the ablative case used in many on-line Latin texts? I already know the grammar, though I never mastered the subtleties of accenting.

[scrabblehack]

I haven't found all that many sites -- but I'm going to say no -- and how would you do it? I see ASCII 226 is an a with a circumflex with many PC fonts -- but not necessarily with other fonts and other platforms (although my HTML is a little weak -- maybe there is a way).

Even in poetry books they're not there -- you have to figure them out based on the meter.

[ELS]

semi-fluent.com

That's very cool! I will check it out in more detail at home. Did you do the programming?

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Britania est insula. Paulus est agricola.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

She said nowadays 'Endangered Languages' issue is very hot in that field.

At least one of my ancestors came from the Isle of Man in 1849. (Potato famine there, too.) In my lifetime the number of living people whose first language was Manx went from thousands to zero. Sounds like genocide to me.

[Dumb_Ox]

Did you do the programming?

Yep. Pretty easy, I'm surprised it hasn't been done before. I learned my Greek and Latin on the Perseus Project website, which has similar hyperlinked words but only for static, pre-selected texts. Its server has been slow for six years, so my site also provides a workaround for its lazy dictionary.

I hope to get a classical/Biblical Greek dictionary up and running, too, but Greek fonts are not standardized so it'll take much more work.

[Constantine XIII]

This thread is officially awesome.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

"Mixaloti equitis"

Whoo..I reread it. My previous reply did not strike the right tone. Funny? Yes. This would actually be very good as a Latin teaching tool. The students would be more inclined to pay attention because of decadent subject matter! Latin Rap by the "hominum rhythmicorum" (shouldn't that be plural, "Hominae Rythmicorae"? id est.."rhythmic-oration people.")

[Dead Corpse]

Nope. It's a singular. "Rap star's girlfriend". ;-)

[Cicero]

The Romans didn't have a name for Finland, because they never got that far. Suomi is the Finnish name for the country. Patria being feminine, that seemed the logical usage.

Paulus est agricola nautaque.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

Well that explains it. Its the "English" that I don't understand!

[sneakers]

bump

[muir_redwoods]

amazing

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Certainly, the Romans knew about Scandinavia. Gibbons records tribes in what is now approximately the Ukraine who traced there ancestral homes to Scandinavia.

I'm pretty sure Ptolemy's Geography (Circa CC Anno Domini) included Finland.

[Cicero]

Maybe in the later empire, you could be right, although not much direct contact.

Do you know what the Latin name for Finland is, then? My geographical Latin doesn't extend beyond Germania, and now that I've checked it I don't find Finland or Scandinavia in my Latin dictionary. I think Finlandia was a term developed later.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Finlandia was a term developed later.

Like Scotia in Nova Scotia. Scotland, of course, was Caledonia.