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Thanks to the Pope, Now We're Talking
RealClear Politics ^ | October 24, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 10/24/2006 3:27:24 AM PDT by Puzzleman

An extraordinary thing happened a week ago. Thirty-eight Muslim scholars and chief muftis, from across the Muslim world, jointly replied to the Pope's speech at Regensburg (and more have associated their names with this document, since). It was presented to the Vatican's envoy at Amman; the full text in English is available through the Islamica magazine website, the Catholic website, Chiesa, and elsewhere. I look through the list of signatories, and they are a "who's who" of the learned leaders of a faith that has always aspired to be led by its most learned.

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The signatories renounced and condemned violence against Christians in the name of Islam. They accepted without qualification the Pope's post-Regensburg clarifications, and both accepted and applauded his call for dialogue.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; catholic; dialogue; islam; jihad; muslim; pope; regensburg; rop; terrorism; trop; wot
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Wonderful news!
1 posted on 10/24/2006 3:27:25 AM PDT by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
Has there ever been any change in the Islamic action or law due to words? They consider us infidels, lying to us to advance their agenda would not be immoral but expected. It is the west that values truth and honesty.

As the article says,"Here, for Muslims as well as Christians to read, is an authoritative contemporary statement by men who DO speak for Islam."

The problem is is that the majority of the Muslim population DOESN'T READ. One statistic is of the 1 billion Muslims in the world something like 80% are illiterate. And of those that can read I would guess that less then 10% could read English or get the paper that this article was written.


I am afraid this is just another act of wishful thinking and self delusion on our part.
2 posted on 10/24/2006 3:51:12 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Puzzleman

bookmark


3 posted on 10/24/2006 3:59:43 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: sauropod

review


4 posted on 10/24/2006 4:01:15 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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To: Puzzleman

Actions speak louder than words. I will wait and see what actually happens.


5 posted on 10/24/2006 4:01:50 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Walkingfeather
Surely this group of Muslim leaders cannot control or be held responsible for every muzzie nut strapping on a bomb vest and screaming jihad. Likewise the Pope can't control guys with white sheets who burn crosses or nuts who organize protests at Vet funerals over the sin of homosexuality.
6 posted on 10/24/2006 4:05:18 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: All
Here is a link to a commentary about the Islamic response. At the bottom is a link to the original letter.
7 posted on 10/24/2006 4:05:37 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Puzzleman; sauropod
See Also (from a website closely associated with the Vatican):

The Regensburg Effect: The Open Letter from 38 Muslims to the Pope  ^
  Posted by Stultis
On News/Activism ^ 10/24/2006 6:21:54 AM CDT


Chiesa ^ | 18 October 2006 | Sandro Magister
The Regensburg Effect: The Open Letter from 38 Muslims to the Pope Instead of saying they are offended and demanding apologies, they express their respect for him and dialogue with him on faith and reason. They disagree on many points. But they also criticize those Muslims who want to impose, with violence, “utopian dreams in which the end justifies the means” by Sandro Magister ROMA, October 18, 2006 – One month after his lecture at the University of Regensburg, Benedict XVI received an “open letter” signed by 38 Muslim personalities from various countries and of different outlooks, which discusses...

8 posted on 10/24/2006 4:30:48 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis

Thanks. This news is worthy of as much coverage as we can give it.


9 posted on 10/24/2006 4:39:41 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Puzzleman

Good. We've got your thread on the Editorial sidebar, mine on Front Page, and crosslinks in both. Should get this a little more attention this morning.


10 posted on 10/24/2006 4:44:30 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Puzzleman

A mountain out of a molehill. 1400 years of Islamic action is far more meaningful than an open letter to the Pope.


11 posted on 10/24/2006 4:57:42 AM PDT by Prysson
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To: rhombus

>>Likewise the Pope can't control guys with white sheets who burn crosses or nuts who organize protests at Vet funerals over the sin of homosexuality.<<

Neither of which are Catholic. Maybe someone should talk to their leaders.
(KKK hates Catholics too. Ever see the Blues Brothers?)


12 posted on 10/24/2006 5:21:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: netmilsmom
Ever see the Blues Brothers

Repeatedly.

13 posted on 10/24/2006 5:45:05 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Walkingfeather
Has there ever been any change in the Islamic action or law due to words? They consider us infidels, lying to us to advance their agenda would not be immoral but expected. It is the west that values truth and honesty.

More meaningful IMO, have any of them converted from Islam to Christianity?

14 posted on 10/24/2006 5:52:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Puzzleman

Amazing. I pray that this type of thinking will now flow like a river throughout the ME and dominate.


15 posted on 10/24/2006 6:39:26 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Stultis

More attention BUMP!


16 posted on 10/24/2006 6:44:24 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: rhombus

exactly my point. You think these guys are going to go back to their home mosques and say "guess what, all that killing of infidels is wrong? " Not likely, you see the fellow muzzies would not only kill him but also his entire family.

Now lets reverse it. How many mainstream Christian people have condemed the KKK, white nazi party and their ilk? Millions.

The nutjobs from the vet funerals are not even mainstream baptists, but do the mainstream baptists kill those idiots families for their idiot ways? no.

You need to compare apples for apples.


17 posted on 10/24/2006 6:57:42 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Puzzleman
The title of this needs to say something to the effect of 'Top Muslims come forward on violence toward Christians' to catch people's attention.

I wonder why this was not done?

18 posted on 10/24/2006 7:24:28 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Walkingfeather

And your point is.... religious people shouldn't bother talking? Nah, that couldn't be it.


19 posted on 10/24/2006 7:41:28 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Walkingfeather
The problem is is that the majority of the Muslim population DOESN'T READ.

Can't vouch for the veracity of that, but anyhow: Just another way for the fascists to keep the masses down. Hmmm... makes one think of those opposed to "No Child Left Behind".
20 posted on 10/24/2006 8:06:41 AM PDT by Pirate21 (The liberal media are as sheep clearing the path along which they will be led to the slaughter.)
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