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Lance Bass Beau: Sex Assault in Military for Being Gay
ABC News ^ | Oct. 22, 2006 | ABC News

Posted on 10/23/2006 9:35:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey

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To: newzjunkey
"A bag was put over my head," he said. "I was stripped of my clothes. I was forced to do things sexually with two other male cadets."

Don't they do worse things with each other without the bags over their heads?

If it's his *private* life, why didn't it stay that way? Makes me think it wasn't so private, and that's a big part of the problem; they don't keep it that way. If what they do in private is nobody else's business, don't tell me about it then.

21 posted on 10/23/2006 10:21:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"Don't they do worse things with each other without the bags over their heads?"

He's probably lying/exaggerating for effect.

But if he's not, it's horrible to suggest forced sex is okay because of what someone might do consensually. Imagine if a similar statement were made when a woman was raped.


22 posted on 10/23/2006 10:49:01 PM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: newzjunkey
"There was definitely an institutionalized acceptance of people being homophobic and telling gay jokes and making homophobic remarks -- really, really mean homophobic remarks to the point of, 'Kill gay people,' " he said.

I've known some real "warriors" (presumably heterosexual) in the military who had people try to hang a "queer" label on them. They didn't whine about it, or get mad: they got even. Then they got the one thing this guy will never have, respect.

23 posted on 10/23/2006 10:50:22 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: newzjunkey

"Lehmkuhl now hopes his story will help prompt the military to take a more critical look at the policy on gays — a policy, he said, that is simply failing."

I agree with him on this one point. I was in at the time that they instituted the don't ask, don't tell policy. Being in the position of a single soldier having to share a public shower with every other person of your gender living in the barracks under that policy is an uncomfortable, or worse, threatening place to be.

The policy is a failure and they should go back to the old one to protect the troops so they don't have to literally live with a sexual threat from homosexual troops, percieved or real. It's one thing to walk around in public fully clothed and get admired by the same sex. It's quite another story in a shower that is empty save you and the admirer.

Did that mean that homosexuals were not in the military prior to the new policy? No. However, it at least afforded some protection and a clear statement that the behavior was not welcome.

The only other choice is complete "openness" and "segregation" in the barracks and any other circumstance that would cause sexual tension. For instance homosexual troops should not serve in combat units much like the segregation of male/female troops. However, everytime the segregation option is fielded to the gay agenda they soundly renounce it. One doesn't even need to wonder why.


24 posted on 10/23/2006 11:39:47 PM PDT by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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So he was a captain when he was a cadet at the Academy? That's what the story seems to try to suggest.


25 posted on 10/24/2006 12:11:53 AM PDT by PAR35
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All I can say on this issue, is that the gay men that I have worked with love a man in uniform.

Case in point, Lance Bass...and these guys


26 posted on 10/24/2006 4:31:05 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: PAR35

If you read a little closer (not too close, though...,) you'll see that it suggests he was molested/assaulted while at the Academy...


27 posted on 10/24/2006 4:32:25 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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If you read a little closer Yes, but it starts by saying he was living a secret life as a captain. It sounds like the secret was pretty well out while he was a cadet. So, by simple deduction, he had to be a captain before or while he was a cadet.

The only conclusion that can be drawn from this story is that the writer was an incompetent propagandist with an agenda.

28 posted on 10/24/2006 10:24:36 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: JRios1968

We have a friend who was in the Army and one night some gay guy started messing with him while he was asleep.The other soldiers had to pull this friend of ours off the guy because he was going to beat him to death.Were in our 50's so it hasn't been too long ago. Yea I guess it was about 30 years ago. Dang I just made myself feel so so old.


29 posted on 10/24/2006 11:17:23 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: newzjunkey

I think it's much more likely that a guy gay will try to get something going with a straight guy than vice versa. As for putting a bag over his head and all that . . . I don't believe a word of it. Wishful thinking, probably. Gay men seem to have a panting obsession with being raped and abused by other men. Seems to go with the territory.


30 posted on 10/24/2006 12:12:27 PM PDT by Torpedogirl
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To: PAR35

I agree...it's poorly written. But there is NO way he could have been a Captain before or while a cadet...trust me (unless he was a Cadet Captain, but I don't think the Academy uses those ranks for their upperclass cadets...)


31 posted on 10/24/2006 3:25:53 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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"I was forced to do things sexually with two other male cadets."

Sounds like they had two more homosexuals in the Academy.

32 posted on 10/24/2006 4:01:38 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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Make sure you rush out and buy Justin Timberlakes new CD too!

LOL! His latest musical efforts could be the worst crap I have ever heard.

My kids even make fun of it.

33 posted on 10/24/2006 4:06:40 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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(unless he was a Cadet Captain, but I don't think the Academy uses those ranks for their upperclass cadets..

A First-Class Cadet (senior) will have one of the following ranks:

Cadet/Second Lieutanant
Cadet/First Lieutenant
Cadet/Captain
Cadet/Major
Cadet/Lieutenant Colonel
Cadet/Colonel

34 posted on 10/24/2006 6:13:14 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: newzjunkey

This guy was also presented as "married" to his race (and life ) partner. The marriage didn't last, as it was over before the show completed airing.


35 posted on 10/24/2006 6:25:39 PM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT native in exile in NC - we have moonbats here in Dixie, too)
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Shows how much I know about the Academy...I was in ROTC.


36 posted on 10/24/2006 8:02:41 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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"A bag was put over my head," he said. "I was stripped of my clothes. I was forced to do things sexually with two other male cadets."

He's full of crap (mainly because it's been packed) and lying. He didn't get sexually assaulted, that's just his warped memory of the incident. He got his butt kicked because he was a meat gazer. He's lucky he didn't get killed.
37 posted on 10/24/2006 8:06:22 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: pissant

Who the Ex-Captain's or the N'Sync guy? And why?


38 posted on 10/24/2006 8:07:24 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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"Not sure about the credibility here. Surely, if true, he should be naming-names."

He won't name names because it's not true and he knows it. He's a lying piece of crap queer pole smoking faggot.
39 posted on 10/24/2006 8:09:01 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: JRios1968

I asked my father about homosexuals in the Army when he served in WWII. He said that most of the overt or effeminate ones did not make it through basic training; not that anyone tormented them - basic in that time was just serious and hard business. . then, after they left for N. Africa, there wasn't much time for any frivolous considerations. Simply staying alive through the battles there and then boarding ship for Sicily, Italy and on to Germany with the tough combat for every inch in those places - stopping Hitler and ramming it down the Panzer Divisions throats (not an easy job, incidentally) was the daily reality of combat. They were brothers and they weren't abusing or humiliating each other; I think a lot of this crap is very little more than too many people having way too much coddling by mama and way too much time on their hands to contemplate their belly buttons.


40 posted on 10/24/2006 8:19:58 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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