Native hits roadblock applying for state ID

Oregonian/OregonLive ^ | 10/23/06 | Seth Prince

[B Knotts]

DMV - Oregon accepts documents from foreigners but will not accept proof from out-of-state tribes

It's easier for illegal immigrants to get a driver's license in Oregon than it is for Native Americans who show up at DMV counters with identification from out-of-state tribes.

About half the states in the nation allow some form of tribal documentation to secure a driver's license or identification card. Some want federal proof, some require tribal proof and some will accept either. Of those 28 states, two -- Oregon and New York -- restrict that to documents from in-state tribes only, according to information from the National Immigration Law Center.

"We have a process and a criteria," says David House, spokesman for the Oregon Division of Motor Vehicles.

That process -- which Oregon tribes follow -- includes accepting identifying documents from organizations the state's DMV has worked with before. "If a group contacts us and gives us a sample and tells us how to identify it as authentic, we'll consider it."

[B Knotts]

Typical. Native Americans can't get drivers licenses in Oregon, but illegal aliens can.

[B Knotts]

You may find this of interest.

[muawiyah]

It's really not surprising at all. Most likely the folks behind this one are the same guys who complain about Native Americans having fishing rights on the Columbia that are not given over to haoli.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Cicero]

Of course. And I am paying out of state tuition for my daughter who is studying Interior Design at UO, but if she were an illegal she'd get the cheaper rate.

This kind of thing is now common.

[La Enchiladita]

The illegals are being given the fast track and all the rest get the slow track, or no track. That is the plan I see unfolding before my eyes every day.

DMV management is not known for its geniuses, but still, this House guy gets the "dumb and dumber" award. How you cannot recognize the I.D. of the people who've resided here the longest is ... WAY .... beyond me.

[William Terrell]

That's more ironic than I bet most people would think.

We've made and broken treaties with the Indian tribes, but we as a people respect the courage and tenacity, and the fierce sense of sovereignty of all those people. We didn't just whip them and absorb them by force into our world, we made treaties with them like we would a sovereign nation. A nation within a nation with our full consent.

Then we have people from another nation whom we can't respect because they are fleeing taking responsibility for the condition of their country and government.

I wish decisions like this were being made for the same tactic in Caldwell's "The Devil's Advocate", but won't hold my breath.

[Finger Monkey]

I just LOOOOOOVE the government.

[fish hawk]

I wonder how many people reading this know what a "haoli" is. In my tribe, they are called "wagay". (I've lived in Hawaii for almost 40 years and know lots of Haolis)LOL

[fish hawk]

Thanks for the "ping".

[muawiyah]

Knew I'd get someone with that one ~ In Indonesia they are called "buken asli".

[Shuttle Shucker]

And now for the "hypocrisy" category:

http://www.mexiconews.com.mx/21156.html

The Mexican government said Monday it will present the U.N. Human Rights Council with a resolution criticizing a U.S. plan to build hundreds of kilometers (miles) of additional fencing on the border. Mexican Ambassador Luis Alfonso de Alba, president of the 47-member council, said the resolution will denounce the fence for violating human rights and driving undocumented migrants to cross the border in more remote and dangerous areas. The United States is an observer but not a member of the council, which this year replaced the widely discredited U.N. Human Rights Commission. At the council´s first sessions this year, members failed to reach agreement on the most hotly debated issues, such as on human rights violations in Sudan. Last month, the U.S. Senate approved a bill to build 1,100 kilometers (700 miles) of border fencing. U.S. President George W. Bush has said he will sign it into law, despite pleas from the Mexican government for a veto. President Vicente Fox has called the plan "shameful" and compared it to the Berlin Wall. An estimated 11 million Mexicans live in the United States, about half them illegally.

Why don't WE file a complaint with the UN over Mexico's flagrantly anti-gringo immigration laws that lead to the poverty there of which they hypocritically complain? Their laws are detailed here:

http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration

[AppleButter]

Please, it's "American Indians," not "Native Americans."

I am, after all, a Native American because I was born here. Both my parents are Native Americans. One of my grandparents was a Native American, too.

As the reconquista gathers steam, you're going to hear more and more racists say that "white people should go back to Europe where they belong." Don't make La Raza's job any easier.

[gubamyster]

ping

[dennisw]

Put me down too as a native American. Immigrants such as Arnold Schwarzenegger are not native Americans, however he is a naturalized citizen. ¿Comprende?

[VeniVidiVici]

I'm sure the Mexican whiners will also lodge a protest at the UN over the fence the Chinese put up between China and Kim IL - Land.

[mtbopfuyn]

Easily circumvented. Walk in and look dumb while saying, "No hablo englesh" and he'll be ushered to the front of the line.

[osideplanner]

I think it's time, we just all claim to be illegal and get some our tax money back in governmental services.

[muawiyah]

I was referring to "the same guys", and their complaint is always against "Native Americans" because, after all, they're all left of center Oregonians who want to steal all the salmon first.

I'll call'em what I want, and mostly I refer to the only legitimate earliest settlers as Oneida and Mohican. Everybody else is rather recent you know.

[Shuttle Shucker]

The new head of the UN is South Korean if I remember correctly. Like he's against the concept of border walls when a nation's under threat from abroad? Ha!

What if we filed a complaint with the UN over Mexico's flagrantly anti-gringo immigration laws that lead to the poverty there of which they hypocritically complain? Their laws are detailed here:

http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration

It'd make Mexico's hypocrisy sting for them on more of a global scale.