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Ford Reports $5.8 Billion 3Q Loss
San Francisco Examiner ^ | Oct 23, 2006 | TOM KRISHER (AP)

Posted on 10/23/2006 9:29:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

DEARBORN, Mich. - Ford Motor Co. said Monday its loss widened to $5.8 billion in the third quarter, weighed down by the costs of its massive restructuring plan aimed at reshaping the company and cutting expenses so it can compete better against lower-cost rivals from overseas.

It was the largest quarterly loss in more than 14 years for the nation's second biggest automaker, and company officials predicted things would get worse in the fourth quarter as market share drops and Ford pays for further plant closures and restructuring costs.

The July-September performance brings Ford's losses to $7.24 billion for the first nine months of the year.

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Future socialist committments have made it diffucult for Ford (and GM) to supply vehicles at a price point that make them competitive.
1 posted on 10/23/2006 9:29:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot
Future socialist committments

Stupid concessions to union thugs, maybe. But Ford made these without the government taking control. It's hardly socialistic. Ford had the resources not to make bad deals, or to make them contingent on future growth. This they did not do. They probably were looking for a short term fix, promised long-term money, and now have to pay the piper.

I suspect that the Krauts (Daimler-Chrysler, Volswagen and BMW) have to deal with more socialism, and they are not having such massive losses.
2 posted on 10/23/2006 9:42:02 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Bad cars ...bad policy...makes bad business...
they could have had a fleet of Hybrids.....and be in the lead....but now they follow....or chase...sad to see the US failing....but now companies will come up with NEW ideas..and succeed


3 posted on 10/23/2006 9:44:56 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: sittnick
Ford made these without the government taking control. It's hardly socialistic. Ford had the resources not to make bad deals, or to make them contingent on future growth. This they did not do.

I didn't accuse the government of forcing these concessions on Ford. Business can volunteer into socialist economic policies, it's a free country. Future growth contingencies would change the business practice to capitalistic. As you point out, that would be a more wise policy.

4 posted on 10/23/2006 9:55:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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This reminds me of a story on here a couple of months ago, pointing out that GM spends more on viagra and sex enhancement drugs for retirees than they spend on new product development.

I imagine Ford is in the same boat, and wonder how long a company can go on when it spends more on stuff like that than developing new products?


5 posted on 10/23/2006 9:58:15 AM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Navy Patriot

Among the big three, Ford is by far the most socialistic. The financial troubles are well deserved.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 10:01:55 AM PDT by OldCorps
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When Ford remembers that their business was built on customers and not on comforting the union socialists, then they might have an opportunity to be successful again - if it's not too late.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 10:06:55 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (This is my "+3 tagline of smiting")
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To: sittnick
Stupid concessions to union thugs, maybe. But Ford made these without the
government taking control. It's hardly socialistic.


Yep.
The managment was a fairly active part in the grave-digging.
I was shocked when a Wall Street Journal article revealed that
the idea letting un-used union employees come sit in a "sitting room"
and collect their full pay until needed on the line was a proposal from
GM management.

I suspect these glowing examples of lowlights in management just
don't get enough coverage in business school.
8 posted on 10/23/2006 10:08:28 AM PDT by VOA
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Ford Reports $5.8 Billion 3Q Loss

I guess advertising in all those gay magazines isn't paying off like they expected!

9 posted on 10/23/2006 10:09:56 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: OldCorps
Among the big three, Ford is by far the most socialistic. The financial troubles are well deserved.

Many businesses incorporate minor to major socialist policies in their model. Socialism has an economic component as well as a political. When discussing business economics I will state if a political component is suspected, otherwise it's economic.

10 posted on 10/23/2006 10:10:14 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

GM will make it, because their products (the new ones) are better.

Ford has a product problem, as well as the other issues.


11 posted on 10/23/2006 10:10:50 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Navy Patriot

providing pension and retiree medical benefits is not "socialism".

in fact, you'll see socialism sooe as more and more companies are dropping those benefits, and those workers run to the government to get them. then it will be socialism.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 10:12:08 AM PDT by oceanview
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I am certain that to some extent Ford's downfall is due to its pandering to homosexuals with their overseas advertising.

I own a Ford, but will not buy another. Additionally, I refuse to shop at Wal Mart or Sam's until they publicly apologize for doing the same.

Last year, my wife and I spent $2,000 at the local Super Wal Mart. This next year, it'll be $0.

That's gonna leave a mark on Ford and Wal Mart as more people decide to do the same.
13 posted on 10/23/2006 10:13:09 AM PDT by AlGone2001 (He's not a baby anymore...)
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To: SaveTheChief
their business was built on customers

Damn capitalists! /S

14 posted on 10/23/2006 10:13:12 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: VOA

I've heard of that exact job, I think the US steel industry has the same policy.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 10:15:35 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: AlGone2001

I wish Ford's problem was their gay pandering, but I tend to think it's the crummy vehicles they make.


16 posted on 10/23/2006 10:16:50 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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I wish they'd make up their mind at FoMoCo!

Just a few years ago top management at FoMoCo complained about the "sea of white faces" around FoMoCo.

So I for one vowed to honor their wishes. I stayed away.

Now they are complaining about too few customers.

Go figure.

17 posted on 10/23/2006 10:18:12 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: oceanview
providing pension and retiree medical benefits is not "socialism".

Quick quiz:

The purpose of a business is to:

(1) Provide full health benefits to working and retired employees.

(2) Provide a product or service to customers at a competitive price for profit.

18 posted on 10/23/2006 10:19:26 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: AlGone2001

Funny....

Ford's retail sales are climbing since the AFA boycott...


19 posted on 10/23/2006 10:20:46 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: Navy Patriot

my point is, its not socialism. wages and benefits, pension and medical, is not "socialism".

that prevalent conservative attitude about people who work for wages, is killing our party. our economic message to workers is non-existent.


20 posted on 10/23/2006 10:24:21 AM PDT by oceanview
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