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Tibetans shot at by Chinese reach India
Haveeru Daily ^ | Monday, October 23, 2006; 3:52 AM | Haveeru Daily

Posted on 10/23/2006 5:35:24 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick

KATHMANDU - Some 41 Tibetan refugees fired on by Chinese border guards last month as they entered Nepal have been flown to India, an official from the Tibetan Reception Centre in Kathmandu said Saturday.

"The 41 Tibetans refugees who arrived in Kathmandu left for New Delhi on Friday for security reasons," said an official at the Tibetan Reception Centre.

The official did not elaborate.

The Tibetans arrived in Kathmandu earlier this month after Chinese soldiers opened fire on a group of about 70 people, including children, women, monks and nuns, trying to flee into Nepal on September 30.

A nun was killed in the incident according to witnesses and foreign Tibetan groups.

The remaining Tibetans in the group of 70 were believed to have been detained by Chinese border guards. China confirmed the incident took place and said that the border troops were forced to act in self-defense after soldiers found the group trying to escape Tibet and were attacked.

Numerous foreign climbers witnessed the incident including a Romanian climber who filmed footage of a group of unarmed Tibetans being fired on as they tried to run away.

A monk who was part of the group told AFP that the Chinese border guards fired "indiscriminately" at the fleeing Tibetans.

Since 1989 Nepal's official policy has been that Tibetan refugees cannot stay in the country.

Sandwiched between regional giants India and China, Nepal pursues a cautious policy over the issue of people fleeing Chinese-controlled Tibet, directly to the north. The office of the representative of Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, was closed in Nepal's capital in 2005, but refugees continue to be transited through the Himalayan nation, often to the northern hill station of Dharamsala, where the Dalai Lama leads the Tibetan government-in-exile.

Tibetan refugees began arriving in Nepal in 1959 after the Dalai Lama fled Lhasa following an abortive uprising against Chinese rule. A year later Communist troops entered Tibet.

The Dalai Lama has in recent years urged greater autonomy from Beijing for his homeland.

Around 2,500 people a year make an often dangerous trip across the Himalayas into Nepal and India.

International rights groups accuse the Chinese of ruling Tibet through repression and military intimidation.


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To: mass7
The "bative" Indians got short shifted, for sure, but nowhere near "clensed" of their culture or religion. Both are still very much alive.

Of 6,000 Tibetan monasteries, temples and shrines how many have the Chinese left intact to date? (Ten years ago the figure was 1%.)

The Chinese have destroyed what was a truly free Tibet. The Dalai Lama's 'government in exile' keeps reminding the world of that fact, which is why the Chinese hate him and want him dead.

82 posted on 10/30/2006 9:31:41 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: MimirsWell
"Looks like we have a couple of chicoms running amok :). Since they started the cursing game, can I run amok yet?"

IMO, regarding writing styles, it appears that one of them might be British or an American europhile. Talk of "empire" has been popular again in some circles in the UK and France for a few years (at least since the two were plotting to take over the EU, then later, each pushing for control of the EU). Notice the projection of the word, "condescending" (attitude of "lords" to us lowly "colonials").
83 posted on 10/30/2006 11:20:40 AM PST by familyop
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To: mass7; ARridgerunner; familyop; MimirsWell
American atrocities on native Indians is not a license for Communist China to carry out a genocide of Tibetans. In other words American atrocities (that happened more then a century ago) do not make it right for China to justify their killing of Tibetans. This is the 21st century and China is GUILTY OF GENOCIDE. Can you imagine this kind of genocide happening in US in this day and age?

You still owe the world an explanation and its no good trying to draw moral equivalence with mistakes that America committed more then a hundred years ago.
84 posted on 10/30/2006 12:18:57 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Yang Taiyi; MimirsWell; familyop; TigersEye; Candor7; ARridgerunner
commiting crime to smuggle children no matter what their saying are. could you imagine that; " a mexican illegal cross border to USA, and caught by USA police, instead of negociate with mexico government and deport the illegal men back to mexico, the USA government send the men to Canada, and canada government reward the man refugee status..."? if so, USA is encouraging more illegal crossing.
 

Do not try to draw upon the example of  America's own problems with illegals and any try to highlight it as some sort of an equivalent. This has nothing to do with illegals crossing into US from Mexico and neither is this an issue of human trafficking. This is an issue of systematic decimation of the Tibetan people and their culture carried out by an autocratic and totalitarian regime. Tibetans are fleeing a GENOCIDE. A more appropriate example would be that of Jewish refugees trying to flee Nazi Germany.

Regardless of the propaganda dished out buy your CCP the world know the plight of Tibet and her people. What you need to do is addressee the issue of GENOCIDE. Its no good trying to cover up the real issue with lies/propaganda or try to confuse it with other issues of border-security or human trafficking. People here are not fools. China needs to end the illegal occupation and vacate Tibet. Tibetans deserve to get their basic right to survival, dignity/honour and freedom which is not possible under an autocratic and Fascist Chinese regime.

85 posted on 10/30/2006 1:54:52 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Yang Taiyi
I am not a member of CCP, I am only an average chinese

Your comments:

"China have no choice but to support Parkistan to fight against india due to india's hosting of dalai lama, the situation is not good for indians. "

China have no choice but to support pakistan, give a lesson to india in 1962,

Sounds like a veiled threat intended to force compliance from India to the diktats of a totalitarian Chinese regime. India will not bend to the fascist Chinese junta and 1962 will not be repeated. Tell that to your boss.

On this forum you are merely parroting your government's propaganda. Hence regardless of who or what you claim to be, you are nothing more then a mere pawn in the hands of your government. I would rather have appreciated if you had shown the courage to unequivocally condemn the genocide carried out by Chinese government. Instead you only chose to bring up irrelevant issues about human-trafficking and border-security to obfuscate the real issue here.

 Your stand only reaffirms my belief about the lack of freedom of speech in China and the way Chinese government regulates and enforces strict monitoring of the Internet not to allow deviant opinion that does not conform with the standard party line.

86 posted on 10/30/2006 2:36:48 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Yang Taiyi
"please go through legal way and agreed by china government, dont do smuggling anymore."

As I said, we don't bend to China's diktats. "Smuggling" to save innocent human lives is no crime. Tell that to CCP.
87 posted on 10/30/2006 2:47:38 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Yang Taiyi
China very much supports seperatist movements in India, especially the Maoists and other terrorist organisations in the NE.
88 posted on 10/30/2006 3:01:27 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Yang Taiyi

More commie propaganda and filthy lies about Dalai Lama.

Tibet was never part of China. It was occupied by China for brief moments in history which is the Chinese premise to cite Tibet as part of China. Afghanistan is a lot more part of India then Tibet is part of China.

"His karma is to did in exile, and the punishment fits the crime, since he turned his back on his own people and his mother country, China."

His mother country is not China, its Tibet.


89 posted on 10/30/2006 3:12:38 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: mass7

Check the video linked to post #28.

They were not warning shots. The were bullets intended to kill unarmed civilians.


90 posted on 10/30/2006 3:17:14 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan; mass7; Americanexpat; AmericanInTokyo

The fact that the planet has not enough resources for 2billion middle class people means one of our countries won't make it to the finish line. I would rather not get fooled by China's offer to "treat us like equals" when it comes to resource capturing. Its better to tie up with 300,000 Americans who don't hide their true intentions than 1.3 billion people who have a track record of cheating and lying. Better be a junior partner of the warriors of light than an equal partner of a geo-political satan. I would pick to ally with America and Japan any day over China.

Given your avg 80,000 mass protests a year, better ties with commie China is a risky investment. We can't even be sure your regime will last.


91 posted on 10/30/2006 4:26:02 PM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: MimirsWell; Yang Taiyi; familyop; TigersEye; Candor7; ARridgerunner; Gengis Khan
I would pick to ally with America and Japan any day over China. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bump to the Truth!

And Let's not forget Mongolia, historical scourge of Baghdad, and home of the Khan scourges of China!

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92 posted on 10/30/2006 6:11:38 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Richard Gere to the white courtesy phone.


96 posted on 10/30/2006 7:43:13 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: mass7
Go and screw yourself "buddy". When push comes to shove, it won't be India with its back to the wall, it will be yours. Your Confucian country is full of "confuced" idiots like yourself. Why dont you go back to your Chinese BBS full of brainwashed, self-aggrandizing 傻瓜s like you and Yang Taiyi. Don't come scouting for Indian allies here, you will find none. We are definitely more pro-US than pro-China. So you can go back to your bottles of 白酒 and leave us to keep the intellectual discussions going. No one likes the Chinese in here.
99 posted on 10/30/2006 8:08:16 PM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: mass7; Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick

Exactly when has China been "rich"? First you say only people in temperate countries are because tropical people are lazy and then you make an exception of "confucian countries". You are an illogical, biased, dumbf*ck. Why don't you eat shit and die chicom-trash.


100 posted on 10/30/2006 8:14:53 PM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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