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It's now proven that the gynaecologists of France have more guts than Chirac.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/23/2006 12:23:17 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/23/2006 12:23:51 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Why are things going backwards?

Because you let them.

3 posted on 10/23/2006 12:28:03 AM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between the terrorists and the Democrats)
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I'm SOOO glad the Euroweenies are going through all of this, so we here in the US won't have to!


4 posted on 10/23/2006 12:35:37 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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muslims are non-assimilatory creatures.
flush them out of the western world and send them back to their middle eastern toilets.

I suppose their babies have to be delivered facing away from the western direction so that islamic female vaginal areas are not exposed to Mecca.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 12:40:56 AM PDT by doc maverick
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Muslim husband assaults male gynaecologist

Paris - The agency in charge of Paris-region hospitals on Saturday confirmed that the husband of a Muslim woman examined by a male gynaecologist had physically attacked the doctor, but refused to confirm allegations that the assault was motivated by religious extremism.

The AP-HP hospital agency said it had taken legal proceedings against the husband for an incident that occurred on the night of September 8 in the emergency service of an unnamed Paris hospital.

However the agency refused to endorse a statement by the professional association of French gynaecologists and obstetricians, who described the assault as a manifestation of "Muslim fundamentalism."

The statement by the CNGOF professional association mentioned a similar incident that occurred in a Paris-region hospital in 2003.

'Hospitals must remain absolutely neutral from the religious and ideological point of view'
In both attacks, gynecologists were "physically attacked and injured by the husbands of patients on the grounds that as male doctors they should not examine their wives," the statement said.

However the hospital authorities said they had "not at this stage confirmed any religious motivation" behind the latest incident.

French Health Minister Xavier Bertrand on Friday condemned the September incident, but also said he could not confirm that it was related to "religious or cultural motives."

"Hospitals must remain absolutely neutral from the religious and ideological point of view," he said.

The hospital agency said that a total of 185 violent incidents had been recorded in the 38 Paris-region public hospitals in 2005, up from 145 in the previous year.

However the hospital authorities did not record whether there was any religious motive to any of the attacks, because "such records would be discriminatory, and we have a neutral position," the statement said.

In their statement the gynecologists and obstetricians made a link between the case and a recent high-profile incident in which a French schoolteacher received death threats after publishing a virulent anti-Islamic article in a national paper.

"Are male gynecologists and obstetricians going to have to be protected by the police from now on when they do their job?" the statement asked. "Will they have to go into hiding like philosophy teachers?" - Sapa-AFP


http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1161500762316B216


9 posted on 10/23/2006 12:54:05 AM PDT by endthematrix (I enjoy grilled steak, domestic beer on tap and pinup calendars. Yup, I'm American!)
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Of course the story was posted on FR:

Muslim husband assaults male gynaecologist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1723611/posts


11 posted on 10/23/2006 12:56:02 AM PDT by endthematrix (I enjoy grilled steak, domestic beer on tap and pinup calendars. Yup, I'm American!)
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The college said: "Thirty years ago, Muslim women came into our hospitals without any alarm at being taken into the care of doctors, most of whom were men, and there were none of these difficulties. Why are things going backwards? It is for Islam to adapt to the liberties that all must possess in a modern state." Xavier Bertrand, France's health minister, wrote to the college offering support and expressing his "indignation" at assaults on doctors.

Simple. Thirty years ago they had not the numbers to press for their own way. They've always felt this way, they just didn't want anyone to know until they had the power to make you say "uncle". It's the same reason the U.S.A. didn't have problems with illegal Latinos making demands until the last few years. They knew we'd round'em up and send'em home.

15 posted on 10/23/2006 1:02:32 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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Religion and state were separated in France in 1906.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

16 posted on 10/23/2006 1:15:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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France's leading gynaecologists have challenged hard-line Muslims to bow to France's secular, "modern" rules of society, and to stop insisting that their wives are examined by female doctors.

But wait, isn't the ultimate expression of Islamic society, the Taliban, blowing up schools so that girls cannot attend? Where do they think female doctors come from?

19 posted on 10/23/2006 2:46:27 AM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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I'm of two minds on this. On the one hand, it makes sense to accommodate the patient's preferences, rational or not; if the patient is more comfortable being up in the stirrups with a woman gynecologist than a man -- which is true of many women I know, none of them Muslims -- making the patient more comfortable just makes things easier on everyone.

On the other hand, the husband is in no position to insist on anything. He is not the patient, and his preferences carry no weight. If I'm bored enough, I might consider his views as a matter of idle curiosity after I've finished sorting my sock drawer and alphabetizing my bookshelves.

Last time I checked, women, even married Muslim ones, were autonomous human beings with both the ability and the right to express their own preferences. If they prefer to be examined by a woman, it makes sense to accommodate that preference when possible. If that becomes common enough, female gynecologists will form far longer waiting lists for appointments than male ones, and that imbalance will find a way to correct itself.


21 posted on 10/23/2006 3:08:21 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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23 posted on 10/23/2006 3:19:39 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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It's now proven that the gynaecologists of France have more guts than Chirac.

While gynecologist will work on one, Chirac is one...

30 posted on 10/23/2006 4:16:54 PM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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"It's now proven that the gynaecologists of France have more guts than Chirac."

Let's just say they have had to deal with a lot of Chirac's.

32 posted on 10/23/2006 4:23:30 PM PDT by Natural Law
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Muslims challenging male circumsion with female circumsion is par for the course..
If the Jews go Left they go Right..

If the Jews enthrone Life they enthrone death..
Quite predictable.

37 posted on 10/25/2006 12:05:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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"Thirty years ago, Muslim women came into our hospitals without any alarm at being taken into the care of doctors, most of whom were men, and there were none of these difficulties. Why are things going backwards?

Because your ultra tolerance, of which you are so proud, is killing your country. They only pull this shit because they have found they can get away with it with no repercussions whatsoever from the gutless French.

39 posted on 10/25/2006 7:30:18 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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